[Eeyore]

He's doing loads better off than most of us combined, and he's damn
proud of it. Must have a little something to do with all of that
renewable and clean energy he's providing us

What clean energy is that ?

Graham

 

[John Larkin]

Insane is a good sign, as it means there's something worth doing
unless you're a wuss.

Ideas need to be tempered by physical and economic feasibility. Since
atmospheric oxygen is free, and nitrogen oxides aren't a serious
problem, why transport a full molecule of water around, in an
expensive, dangerous, unstable carrier, just to transport half a
molecule of oxygen?

Question; are we trying to minimize pollution as well as the use of
fossil fuels, or not?

How much pollution would you create by manufacturing all that aluminum
and H2O2? Look up the processes; both are very, very nasty.

John

 

[JosephKK]

BradGuth [email protected] posted to sci.electronics.design:

Insane is a good sign, as it means there's something worth doing
unless you're a wuss.

Question; are we trying to minimize pollution as well as the use of
fossil fuels, or not?
- Brad Guth -

So wuss, when are you going to build an 100 mpg vehicle.

 

[JosephKK]

Jim Thompson [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:

"Imagine" is not in Brad's capabilities. He's just a parrot of the
science fiction magazines.

...Jim Thompson

I read science fiction mags from time to time and never saw anything
like his lunatic ravings; Brad must be reading astrology or alchemy
magazines.

 

[JosephKK]

BradGuth [email protected] posted to sci.electronics.design:

physics and math, pretty much works each and every time unless
you're stuck with having to use some hocus-pocus conditional physics
that doesn't take little pesky things like the actual truth into
account.

64,000 teraWatts of terrestrial solar energy is conservative.
There's actually lots more solar energy that doesn't manage to get
sufficiently through our polluted plus somewhat wet and reflective
atmosphere, so perhaps as such it doesn't hardly count. Of orbital
physics that relates to working against the mutual pull of gravity
is
exactly what it is. In the case of the Earth/moon consideration
it's worth roughly 2e20 joules per each and every second, and the
last time I'd checked there were still 3600 of them seconds per
hour. - Brad Guth -

Throwing numbers around again; where do they come from?

 

[JosephKK]

Eeyore [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:

Your lack of answer/meaningful response is noted. Quite simply,
science tells us the truth about your daft suggestions.

Your ridiculous 'ideas' are quite frankly no more use than PIGSWILL.

Graham

Quite a bit less actually.

 

[JosephKK]

Eeyore [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:

You insurmountable ignorance of science is fully noted.

Uneducated (ineducable in fact) fatheads like you are worthless
scum. You deserve to be rendered for use as bio-fuel.

Graham

Correct!

 

[John Fields]

Meaningless MORONIC mumbo-jumbo.

 

[Robert Latest]

Conventional piston engines don't make obnoxious amounts of nitrogen
oxides.

They make plenty, that's what you've got your catalytic converter for. That
and the CO.

robert

 

[Robert Latest]

Energy is not measured in terawatts. And I'm not aware of any "spare"
power of terawatt magnitude. If we had terawatts of clean, cheap
"spare" power, why wouldn't we use it to power the electric grid,
saving a lot of coal and natural gas?

We have those spare terawatts in the form of solar radiation, but
unfortunately those won't turn bauxit into Al or water into H2O2 without
some interfacing industry complex.

robert

 

[Robert Latest]

Imagine a gigantic weight, mounted on springs, that wiggles around
roughly once a day, driven by the moon's gravitation. Couple that
motion to a generator. Do the math.

Of course, we'd eventually slow down the moon, and it would start
clipping off the tops of mountains and cell-phone towers.

Actually we'd be speeding up the moon (as the tide forces are already
doing), further expanding its orbit.

See: "Why is the moon slowing down?", David W. Hughes, Nature 290, 190
(1981).

robert

 

[The Ghost In The Machine]

In sci.physics, BradGuth
<[email protected]>
wrote

You've been off-world again, haven't you.

Which "The Ghost In The Machine" is it this time around?

The naysaying Yiddish one, of course. Hmm...where'd I put
my yarmulke? Do I even *have* one???

Closest thing to a driedel I have is a six-sided die,
and I'm not sure where my AD&D dice have wandered off to
today.... I might have some candle holders, but
they're singles, not 8-candle or 7-candle chanukah/hannukah
units.

Yes, I do have a beard. Yes, you are still an idiot.

What part of a 40 kw/m2 worth of tower footprint is way over your
head?

I'm still curious as to the details of this tower
construction. Best I can do is about 200 W/m^2, and
that's with rather exotic PV cells with 40% sunlight
extraction efficiency, over the course of a 24-hour period.
More conventional PV cells might get one 50-100 W/m^2,
again over the course of a 24-hour period.

This energy, which is electric, can be used to synthesize
h2o2. (It's probably better used to electrolyze water,
generating straight h2.)

In theory one might build a tower 10 km high (the highest
building is currently about 560m in height -- the Burj
Dubai) and use the temperature differential as an energy
source.

Or are you contemplating stringing a power cable between
here and LP2 Venus?

Haven't you ever heard of Warren Buffett, or physics?

If enough h2o2 is created via renewable energy that's every bit as
squeaky clean as solar, wind, tidal and geothermal, then where's all
the nasty pollution you speak of coming from?

BTW, you don't really recharge the h2o2/aluminum battery. It's more
like a fuel cell of stored energy, and actually lots of it per kg.

To the extent that concentrated h2o2 might indeed be a dangerous
explosive, yes. Watch out if it crystallizes!

 

[The Ghost In The Machine]

In sci.physics, Eeyore
<[email protected]>
wrote

You mean EEStor.

They've yet to make even a 'prototype'. I suspect they've misunderstood some basic
fundamentals about barium titanate dielectrics. Like their voltage coefficient !

It may simply be a scam.

Even if legitimate, the best they can do is about on par
with a standard battery, and one has to assume capacitor
electrodes about 2 atoms wide to get there.

 

[Eeyore]

physics and math, pretty much works each and every time unless you're
stuck with having to use some hocus-pocus conditional physics that
doesn't take little pesky things like the actual truth into account.

64,000 teraWatts of terrestrial solar energy is conservative.

That's what makes the earth function.

There's actually lots more solar energy that doesn't manage to get
sufficiently through our polluted plus somewhat wet and reflective
atmosphere,

No, the above figure includes all of that.

The problem with solar energy is the huge cost of harnessing it for man's needs.
Not to mention that you only get that energy when the sun shines.

so perhaps as such it doesn't hardly count. Of orbital
physics that relates to working against the mutual pull of gravity is
exactly what it is. In the case of the Earth/moon consideration it's
worth roughly 2e20 joules per each and every second, and the last time
I'd checked there were still 3600 of them seconds per hour.

There's no ENERGY required to keep the moon in orbit. The moon is held in place
by a gravitational FORCE. Force is not the same thing as ENERGY ! This is where
your clear lack of scientific education results in you making idiotic
statements.

The tides that the moon creates do have energy but it isn't easily or
economically tapped.

Graham

 

[Jim Thompson]

Warren Buffett, Willian Mook and myself will thank each and every one
of you folks, as each of you step off the edge of your badly polluted,
environment pillaged and damn spendy as hell flat Earth. BTW, say hi
to your global energy domination boss, Hitler, as you fall clean
through the floor of hell. BTW, much the same as Venus, there's no
apparent shortage of renewable energy to burn in hell (sort of
speak).
- Brad Guth -

Fellow SED'ers, haven't we played this village idiot about as far as
can be taken? Time to shun.

...Jim Thompson

 

[BradGuth]

BradGuthwrote:


You insurmountable ignorance of science is fully noted.

Uneducated (ineducable in fact) fatheads like you are worthless scum. You deserve to be rendered
for use as bio-fuel.

Graham- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No wonder we're at war (again), as it's smart-ass Yids like yourself
that can't break the status quo code of nasty fossil energy sucking
and environment polluting, regardless of the consequences.

Say again how much the likes of ExxonMobil is paying you and others of
your mother Earth raping and human killing kind.
- Brad Guth -

 

[BradGuth]

BradGuthwrote:


What clean energy is that ?

Graham

Now you're being that silly jewboy of denial again, arnt you.

BTW, your MIB army of Yiddish spooks and moles are rather busy at
deploying their usual gauntlet of usenet spermware/fuckware, trying to
terminate my poor old PC once again.
- Brad Guth -

 

[BradGuth]

BradGuthwrote:


Your lack of answer/meaningful response is noted. Quite simply, science tells us the truth about your daft
suggestions.

Your ridiculous 'ideas' are quite frankly no more use than PIGSWILL.

Graham- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Too bad that them smart Jews as having basically invented h2o2 and
most of those energy related applications can't be given any credit
where credit is due. What is it that you have against Jews,
especially since you folks are usually claiming that there's no such
thing as a bad Jew.

Why do you folks always exclude whatever evidence rocks your silly
good ship LOLLIPOP?
- Brad Guth -

 

[Eeyore]

Say again how much the likes of ExxonMobil is paying you

The usual idiotic response.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Now you're being that silly jewboy of denial again, arnt you.

Answer the DAMN QUESTION !

What clean energy is that ? There isn't any is there ? Another thing you just
made up in your feeble little mind.

Graham