The Electric Car

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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Is it not about time that we saw more hi spec electric cars on our
roads. I saw the Tesla Roadster and it outperforms a Ferarri on
acceleration but what of teh charging time. Can we now re-charge in
say 10 mins? The overnight charge is impractable unless the car is to
be used for short distances from home.


Basically, the likes of Eeyore wants to beat the living crap out of
anyone that has oil or any other fossil or yellowcake energy, and then
taking it all back home as though it's ours to badly burn off in any
stupid way we see fit. Therefore, we have no apparent shortage of
fossil fuel as long as our bullets, bombs and other measures of global
domination are better than others have.

The likes of Eeyore tells you one thing without actually contributing
to any given solution, then goes about summarily trashing most any
other better idea, only because it's simply too clean and efficient.
It's exactly what silly Yids of physics and science fuckology like
Eeyore do best.
- Brad Guth -
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
Too bad that them smart Jews as having basically invented h2o2 and
most of those energy related applications can't be given any credit
where credit is due. What is it that you have against Jews,
especially since you folks are usually claiming that there's no such
thing as a bad Jew.

Why do you have an obession with Jews ?

You're clearly mentally unstable.

Graham
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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Fellow SED'ers, haven't we played this village idiot about as far as
can be taken? Time to shun.

...Jim Thompson

True, this guy is clearly a goofy amateur, but it's an interesting
example of the dangers of obsession. I've seen any number of engineers
who invented [1] a basically flawed concept, fell in love with it, and
insisted on evangelizing and/or using it, in spite of fatal flaws. An
essential component of engineering is pragmatism, knowing when to let
go of a beautiful concept because it won't work or isn't practical.
Some people can't do this.

John

[1] or saw it somewhere else, then imagined that they'd invented it.
 
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Charlie Edmondson

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
"Imagine" is not in Brad's capabilities. He's just a parrot of the
science fiction magazines.

...Jim Thompson

Hey Jim! Don't insult the science fiction magazines! They would never
touch a stupid fantasy like H2O2! They have high standards!

Charlie
 
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Charlie Edmondson

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
Warren Buffett, Willian Mook and myself will thank each and every one
of you folks, as each of you step off the edge of your badly polluted,
environment pillaged and damn spendy as hell flat Earth. BTW, say hi
to your global energy domination boss, Hitler, as you fall clean
through the floor of hell. BTW, much the same as Venus, there's no
apparent shortage of renewable energy to burn in hell (sort of
speak).
- Brad Guth -

I used to have an office a couple of floors below Buffet, he know what
he is doing to make money. He ain't investing in H2O2, he's got too
much sense.

Bill Mook is trying some very interesting ideas in creating economically
viable solar power. He is planning on generating synthetic oil from
solar and coal - no H2O2 anywhere in the picture. He also seems to be
bending metal and making money in the attempt.

You are a usenet kook and troll, whose only knowledge of where is A-hole
is involves searching with reams of TP...

Charlie
 
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Charlie Edmondson

Jan 1, 1970
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JosephKK said:
Eeyore [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:




Quite a bit less actually.

Yeah, don't insult good, quality pigswill that helps raise good bacon by
comparing it with Barkin' Braddies nonsense!

Charlie
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuthwrote:

The usual idiotic response.

Graham

I'll agree and/or argue along with your opening mindset, that a hybrid
is the one and only viable alternative, as a purely recharged battery
alternative simply isn't a good option, even if our national grids
were up to the task (of which our power grids are sadly far from
accommodating that kind of added energy demand, much less do we have
the kind of electrical cache of mostly fossil derived energy that's
anything but sufficiently clean or renewable).

However, what part of the power stroke on behalf of a typical four
cycle ICE is extracting usable energy?

Do you think it's ever as much as 50% of that power stroke?

Think of all those components going around and around, as well as up
and down for no apparent good reason, and continually wearing out.
Now think of a clean little radial power only turbine stage that's
given h2o2 and diesel or best using the much greater energy density
per kg worth of low sulphur heating oil, as dual injected into a small
ceramic combustion chamber, that's basically getting rid of that
efficiently created thermal dynamic energy by way of utilizing that
radial exhaust power wheel.

In a one cycle ICE there's but one active component in motion, and
it's directly driving an efficient alternator that's producing a great
many of those clean electrons. This radial element of rotation also
represents a 100% thermal dynamic worthy power stroke per thermal
dynamic cycle, thus at minimum offering an 8 fold improvement over
that pathetic four cycle ICE that's puking and farting out CO2, NOx,
plus sharing a good half dozen or more kinds of nasty elements, as
well as wearing itself out as it's otherwise wasting thermal dynamic
energy potential like there's no tomorrow.

Even if it were given a two stage radial power conversion of
extracting the most from the available thermaldynamics at play, it's
still a single combined unit of torque output of common rotation
that's directly driving that alternator, that's producing those
squeaky clean electrons.

The city and/or commute driving which is 90% or more of what a given
Hummer or GM Volt will likely service, is not about the sustained 70
mph long haul which the kind of Eeyore's insurmountable naysayism is
insisting upon. Even such long haul applications in America
(excluding Texas) are not likely to average over 60 mph, which is a
big energy difference if you are driving such an aerobraking brick
like Hummer, and especially with those conventional show-off and tell-
all macho tires that are often designed in order to make more under-
inflated tire road noise than a pair of Harley Hogs.

Of course, if the true underlying motive or hidden agenda of those
lost souls like Eeyore is to stay the course, and to subsequently
contribute as much their soot, CO2 and NOx plus a dozen other toxic
elements into our h2o bloated and otherwise mostly N2 atmosphere, in
which case there's not a viable solution in sight, nor will there ever
be anything except war upon war over the spendy and somewhat bloody
remainders of fossil and yellowcake energy, as well as for the vast
amounts of fresh water that's taken on behalf of burning and/or
processing such nasty derived energy. Sadly, none of this makes any
sense to a true blue all-american infomercial lord of disinformation
spewing and stay-the-course bigot, that hasn't once in their pathetic
life contributed a positive/constructive thought on behalf of
salvaging our badly failing environment, that is unless there's an
offshore bank account stuffing process taking place in his/her name,
or the names of those within his/her swarm that's usually faith-based
Yiddish, if not worse.
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuthwrote:


Answer the DAMN QUESTION !

What clean energy is that ? There isn't any is there ? Another thing you just
made up in your feeble little mind.

Is this another Yiddish joke? a trick question, or what?

Are you and others of your silly ExxonMobil kind even from Earth?
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuthwrote:

Why do you have an obession with Jews ?

They are very smart folks, and for the most part good folks. How the
heck do you think their Hitler puppet got so freaking far on so damn
little?
You're clearly mentally unstable.

What's "mentally unstable" about sharing the whole truth and nothing
but the truth?

Why don't you want to give those smart Jews full credit for their
physics and science accomplishments that are still seriously
impressive?
- Brad Guth -
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
The likes of Eeyore tells you one thing without actually contributing
to any given solution, then goes about summarily trashing most any
other better idea,

Show me a real 'better idea' instead of one of the joke ideas you've got on the
brain will you ?
only because it's simply too clean and efficient.

Your ideas are neither of these.

You're an ignorant fuckwit who's incapable of doing the calculations to back up
you ideas, instead spewing a load of half-understood nonsense. If could do the
calculations, you'd see that your ideas are absurd, and hugely wasteful and
polluting.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Charlie said:
I used to have an office a couple of floors below Buffet, he know what
he is doing to make money. He ain't investing in H2O2, he's got too
much sense.

Bill Mook is trying some very interesting ideas in creating economically
viable solar power. He is planning on generating synthetic oil from
solar and coal - no H2O2 anywhere in the picture. He also seems to be
bending metal and making money in the attempt.

Talk to Bill Mook for long and you may begin to get the idea he at least has the
touch of the crackpot in him too.

I just hope his lenses work out.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
Is this another Yiddish joke? a trick question, or what?

It's a SERIOUS question.

Willie Mook is at this time making no clean power. Neither are you. So where's the
Warren Buffet's clean power ?

Are you and others of your silly ExxonMobil kind even from Earth?

Will you just can it with your fuckwitted Exxon references. It just makes you look
like another one of the AGW crazies and even MORE stupid than you look already.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
They are very smart folks, and for the most part good folks. How the
heck do you think their Hitler puppet got so freaking far on so damn
little?

THEIR puppet ?

I suggest you go and learn some real history.

What's "mentally unstable" about sharing the whole truth and nothing
but the truth?

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up to you and smacked you round the face.
Your mental instability results in your inability to tell fact from fiction.

Graham
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi paradox137;



That's a big assumption!
Thy charge any EV for 500 miles of operation would
require very high charging power from the grid to do
it in 5 minutes.
It's ludicrous to think one will be able have the
required sub station in your back yard.
And you neighbors will each need one to.

Duane

Someone managed to drive a Tesla roadster from Silicon Valley to Lake
Tahoe and back. At the lake, they had only wall-plug power, so they
stayed overnight. But on the way there and back, about halfway in
Sacramento, they had a high-power recharging station set up, so that
was only a 3-hour additional wait in each direction.

It has a 6800-cell battery!

John
 
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Charlie Edmondson

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
Charlie Edmondson wrote:




Talk to Bill Mook for long and you may begin to get the idea he at least has the
touch of the crackpot in him too.

I just hope his lenses work out.

Graham

Ah, but don't we all! Although, my pot ain't cracked. It is just an
irregular seam... ;-)

Yeah, Bill might be a little over the edge, but if he had a string of
his panels (say, 4-5 of them) that he wanted to test under desert
conditions, I would be glad to help him out!

Charlie
 
Expensive, who cares? We're talking about the
ENVIRONMENT, we can't worry about filty lucre.
What are you, a greedy Republican?

Let the gov't fund it, won't cost a farthing! That's
why we need visionaries like Al Gore, bold men
not afraid to take on the special interests, leading
by example.

Why not just burn Brown's gas?

Why do you need an expensive electric car, when you can use technology
already in use in welders, to power a car for next to nothing?

You just separate the hydrogen and oxygen from water using electro-
statics, and presto.

It is being done all over.


Instead of burning fossil fuels.

If he can do it, why can't anyone else?

You like to kill people for oil or something? Oh yeah I forgot, you
have some of the most evil people the world has ever seen running the
show and they like to fly jets and build bombs and murder people for
oil and pollute the environment because that is how they make their
money.
 
Why not just burn Brown's gas?

Why do you need an expensive electric car, when you can use technology
already in use in welders, to power a car for next to nothing?

You just separate the hydrogen and oxygen from water using electro-
statics, and presto.

It is being done all over.


Instead of burning fossil fuels.

If he can do it, why can't anyone else?

You like to kill people for oil or something? Oh yeah I forgot, you
have some of the most evil people the world has ever seen running the
show and they like to fly jets and build bombs and murder people for
oil and pollute the environment because that is how they make their
money.

I mean if you are so down on Arabs and the people of Iran, why not
just opt for Brown's gas and make all that oil worthless?

Because you are so fucking evil, you want to murder people for simple
blood lust.
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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They make plenty, that's what you've got your catalytic converter for. That
and the CO.

But we have catalytic converters. Whether or not they are part of the
engine is a semantic issue.

John
 
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