http://www.savefuel.ca/oxy-hydrogen/
Its out there and growing fast and being optimized and improved all the
time.
[email protected] said:Its here its now, and all that remains is for people to make it more
efficient and as you can see in youtube, people are working on new devices
every day and getting great results.
^John said:On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:23:59 +0100, Eeyore
:
And bumble bees cannot fly.
No-one ever said that. It's a myth.
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Poor uninformed stupid ass, from:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1312389
"In 1934, August Magnan and André Sainte-Lague (1) concluded from a
simple mathematical analysis that the flight of bees was
“impossible.”"
Magnan is reported to have written that he and a Mr. Saint-Lague had applied the
equations of air resistance to insects and found that their flight was
impossible, but that "One shouldn't be surprised that the results of the
calculations don't square with reality".[19]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumblebee#Flight
Everyone knows no such thing.
You're talking NONSENSE.
Graham
Well its all right there, my fingers are tired from posting so many
videos as anyone can see
You can take a modified VW chasis and fit it with a nice fiberglass
kit and with a little bondo and a little American know how, fit it
with one of the many HHO or Oxyhydrogen or Brown's Gas kits
and presto, you have a Porscht that runs on aqua fresca.
And gets 100 mpg!
For under 3 grand.
Which kits ?
Utter nonsonse.
Graham
You think so? Wait and see. Our company motto will be, "Drive a
Porscht, goes like stink, cheap like borscht!"
But regarding the garden shed inventors who have to carry the ball
because the so called scientific establishment lives under the thumb
of the corporate elite, oh well, its not the first time that real men
had to pick up a screw driver.
It makes no sense to make an electric car or truck, when you can run
it on Brown's Gas just put water in that tank, and away you go.
You think so? Wait and see. Our company motto will be, "Drive a
Porscht, goes like stink, cheap like borscht!"
But regarding the garden shed inventors who have to carry the ball
because the so called scientific establishment lives under the thumb
of the corporate elite, oh well, its not the first time that real men
had to pick up a screw driver.
You see here's the thing. As you can see in this image, you can get a
high performance racing package for what $899
http://www.betterbodiesmotorsport.com/interiors/bodykits10/bodykits10.html
Sure it needs a bit of spot putty on the screws that are holding the
You see here's the thing. As you can see in this image, you can get a
high performance racing package for what $899http://www.betterbodiesmotorsport.com/interiors/bodykits10/bodykits10...
Sure it needs a bit of spot putty on the screws that are holding the
fenders onto the car, piece a cake.
So you pick up a used chasis, throw a new Volkswagen motor in it, or a
rebuilt, and you add your Browns Gas kit.
Now you have a high performance sports car, that runs on water, and
ok, maybe you might have to shell out 5 grand to complete the
interior, get some nice seats etc, but you are still way ahead of the
game because a new Porsche is going to set you back $150,000
With the money you save, you can move to Jamaica and have a dozen
slave girls and do nothing but sit on the beach and drink cocktails
with umbrellas in them.
And those Volkswagens haul ass too, don't kid yourself. When you tune
them up right. There isn't much difference between a Volkswagen and a
Porsche.
But the main thing is, you will be sticking it to the man baby. And
saving the planet.
And you know once enough people get on board the kit train and start
taking back the streets with their own home builts, the car
manufacturers will be forced to play ball or fold.
This car could be parked in your driveway, for 5 grand.http://www.betterbodiesmotorsport.com/interiors/bodykits7/bodykits7.html
Bwahahahaahahahaaaa !
You just gave me the idea. Let's send this myth to Mythbusters !
Obviously word games is yet another faith-based part of what this anti-
think-tank of Eeyore's usenet of naysayism and global energy
domination fiasco is all about. What I'd honestly meant to convey is
that any four stroke ICE that's working with at best having to extract
it's torque from a 50% worth of the given power stroke is simply not
capable of offering the sort of improved thermal dynamics, of
extracting the most given thermal energy in the form of torque as to
what a 100% usable power stroke from a one cycle ICE can deliver.
Good Christ almighty on another stick, whereas even a conventional two
cycle piston ICE as modified for using h2o2 + fossil whatever would
offer a terrific thermal dynamic and kinetic improvement over the
mostly N2 air breathing 4 cycle ICE that literally sucks and blows as
a regular part of its inefficient function.
Thereby once again the grand all-knowing expertise and insurmountable
naysayism of Eeyore and lord/wizard Robert Adsett's out of context
interpretation and/or exclusion of whatever evidence rocks their
ExxonMobil good ship LOLLIPOP, is noted.
Once again, I'll try to make it clear that I had been speaking purely
on behalf of the power stroke factor as being 8 fold better off than
any typical 4 cycle alternative, and not of the overall thermal
dynamic worth of h2o2 + fossil whatever. But then of course yourself
and others of your kind knew that, but instead decided to further
snooker those of us you feel are not worthy of life, and that's
certainly very Hitler or perhaps Zion of yourself, isn't it.
For your information, the four passenger VW Lupo if seriously redone
at using the best of proven technology would have provided that kind
of everyday 100 empg as is (especially from low sulphur heating oil),
and without ever being the least bit hybrid or otherwise running on
any of my clean and renewable energy produced h2o2. Imagine what a
little 2 cycle piston ICE that's burning h2o2 + fossil whatever could
accomplish.
Obviously that Lupo is no Hummer, in fact a Hummer could pack such a
Lupo instead of a spare tire, and it wouldn't hardly know the
difference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Lupo
Via composites and a good use of aluminum and titanium, along with as
much ceramics as possible applied into that little atmospheric
breathing engine that's burning low sulphur heating oil instead of
common road diesel, along with those energy efficient silicon enhanced
tires it could easily accomplish 100 empg at a sustained 60 mph. Of
course the likes of our all-knowing Eeyore wizards will oppose even
this much with all the incest cultivated bigotry and hatred their
little sooty black and environmentally polluting heart can muster,
just like most any good little pro ExxonMobil Yid (aka pretend
atheist) would do.
- Brad Guth -
I am in fact talking about the very salvation of our environment, as
well as conserving as best we can, as to using up the least amount of
fossil fuels.
I'll agree and/or argue right along with an opening mindset of Eeyore,
that a hybrid (much like the GM Volt) is the one and only viable do-
everything alternative, as a purely recharged battery alternative
simply isn't a good option, not even if our national grids were up to
the task (of which our power grids are sadly far from accommodating
that kind of added energy demand, much less do we have the kind of
electrical cache of mostly fossil derived energy that's anything but
sufficiently clean or renewable).
However, what part of the power stroke on behalf of a typical four
cycle ICE/hybrid is extracting usable energy?
Do you think it's ever as much as 50% of that power stroke?
Think of all those pesky components going around and around, as well
as up and down for no apparent good reason, and continually wearing
out. Now think of a clean little radial power only turbine stage
that's given the benefit of h2o2 and diesel or best using the much
greater energy density per kg worth of low sulphur heating oil, as
safely dual injected into a small ceramic combustion chamber, that's
basically getting rid of that efficiently created thermal dynamic
energy by way of utilizing that radial exhaust power wheel.
In a one cycle ICE there's but one active component in motion, and
it's directly driving an efficient alternator that's producing a great
many of those clean electrons. This radial element of rotational
torque also represents a 100% thermal dynamic worthy power stroke per
given kinetic energy cycle, thus at minimum offering an 8 fold
mechanical improvement over that seriously pathetic four cycle ICE
that's puking and flatulating its soot that's saturated with CO2, NOx,
plus sharing a good half dozen or more kinds of nasty elements, as
well as wearing itself out as it's otherwise wasting much of its
thermal dynamic as well as kinetic energy potential in the process,
like there's no tomorrow.
Even if it were given a two stage radial power conversion of
extracting the most from the available thermaldynamics at play, it's
still offering a single combined unit of torque output from a one
cycle alternative on behalf of a common rotation that's directly
driving that alternator, that's producing those squeaky clean
electrons.
The city and/or commute driving which is 90% or more of what a given
Hummer or GM Volt will likely service, is not about the sustained 70
mph long haul which the kind of Eeyore's insurmountable naysayism is
insisting upon. Even such long haul applications in America
(excluding Texas) are not likely to average over 60 mph, which is a
big energy difference if you are driving such an aerobraking brick
like Hummer, and especially with those conventional show-off and tell-
all macho tires that are often designed in order to make more under-
inflated tire road noise than a pair of Harley Hogs.
I'm not saying this alternative represents the one and only consumer
done-deal, as there are a number of technical issues and product
polishing that'll be necessary. But should we wait another centruy,
to see if there's any one left alive after WWIII or WWIV that can
still manage to drive anything, to/from whatever left standing, other
than to ride the gurney they're about to die upon?
Of course, if the true underlying motive or hidden agenda of those
lost souls like Eeyore is to forever stay the course, and to
subsequently contribute as much their ExxonMobil soot, CO2 and NOx
plus a dozen other toxic elements into our h2o bloated and otherwise
mostly N2 atmosphere, in which case there's not a viable solution in
sight, nor will there ever be anything except war upon war over the
spendy and somewhat bloody remainders of fossil and yellowcake energy,
as well as for the vast amounts of fresh water that's taken on behalf
of our badly burning and/or processing such nasty derived energy.
Sadly, none of this makes any sense to a true blue all-american
infomercial lord of disinformation spewing and/or stay-the-course
bigot, that hasn't once in their pathetic life contributed a positive/
constructive thought on behalf of salvaging our badly failing
environment, that is unless there's an offshore bank account stuffing
process taking place in his/her name, or the names of those within his/
her swarm of naysayism that's usually faith-based Yiddish, if not
worse.
- Brad Guth -
Well its all right there, my fingers are tired from posting so many
videos as anyone can see, and kits are already on the market.
We gave the car manufacturers a chance to do the right thing but all
they did was give us the run around.
So we are fed up. We are cutting them out of the loop and going it
alone.
You can take a modified VW chasis and fit it with a nice fiberglass
kit and with a little bondo and a little American know how, fit it
with one of the many HHO or Oxyhydrogen or Brown's Gas kits and
presto, you have a Porscht that runs on aqua fresca.
And gets 100 mpg!
For under 3 grand.
Throw in a paint job, racing stripes, some fat boy tires, dual
smitty's, and you are ready for sunset strip.
And not only that, but with the improved torque, and no need for
polution control devices, you will probably be able to beat the newer
factory Porches right off the line.
0 to 60 in 4 seconds. http://www.betterbodiesmotorsport.com/body.htm
Let me give you an anology, since everyone is always claiming that burning
Brown's Gas is somehow like perpetual motion.
Well no one says that burning Brown's Gas is anything more than burning gas.
And Brown's Gas is merely another state of water,
just like if you compress
propane you will get liquid propane.
So if you take one loaf of bread fresh out of the oven, and you take a giant
loaf of bread and compress it into a brick the same size as the first loaf, and
the fresh loaf you slice a piece of bread, and the second loaf you scrape the
hard bread until you have a pile of bread cumbs of equal weight to the sliced
bread, how in your insane mind can you compare apples and oranges and make any
claims that the 2nd law has been violated by doing that?
