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You see you will find that car manufacturers have spent billions of
dollars in hydrogen cell development in their cars, and made these
futuristic cars and are telling everyone that in 10 or 20 years this
will be affordable.
Well for one thing, what they are promoting is for you to load up at a
hydrogen filling station, so that you can be charged for hydrogen, and
taxed on it, when using Brown's Gas, the water is free and there is no
tax and it is available today.
So this is really nothing more than a huge refusal of the corporate
elite to deal with the issue of global warming and to screw people
over.
And you can fight back.
You can fight back because Brown's Gas is easy to make and safe to use
and it will run your car today.
The kits are there and maybe you could even improve on the efficiency
of them.
You can buy a used car chassis put a nice body on it, and on a small
budget, you can show these people how to do it properly.
Imagine how stupid they are going to look, when just dozens of people
have made their conversion cars and are driving them around.
Is this doable?
Damn straight.

 

[me]

snip

What did s.e.d. do to deserve this pestilence of free-energy wingnuts?

John

Replied to their drivel.

 

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You see you will find that car manufacturers have spent billions of
dollars in hydrogen cell development in their cars, and made these
futuristic cars and are telling everyone that in 10 or 20 years this
will be affordable.
Well for one thing, what they are promoting is for you to load up at a
hydrogen filling station, so that you can be charged for hydrogen, and
taxed on it, when using Brown's Gas, the water is free and there is no
tax and it is available today.
So this is really nothing more than a huge refusal of the corporate
elite to deal with the issue of global warming and to screw people
over.
And you can fight back.
You can fight back because Brown's Gas is easy to make and safe to use
and it will run your car today.
The kits are there and maybe you could even improve on the efficiency
of them.
You can buy a used car chassis put a nice body on it, and on a small
budget, you can show these people how to do it properly.
Imagine how stupid they are going to look, when just dozens of people
have made their conversion cars and are driving them around.
Is this doable?
Damn straight.

Electrolysis, electrostatics, to separate hydrogen and water.
Well have you tried using the principles of a Vandegraff generator?
All you need is a belt to make a static charge. Like a generator or
alternator, only use the static charge to create a small charge on
your electrode, that is immersed in your sugar jar, and then attach a
fire hose to that sonavbitch and blow flame for 30 feet.

 

[Eeyore]

Electrolysis, electrostatics, to separate hydrogen and water.
Well have you tried using the principles of a Vandegraff generator?
All you need is a belt to make a static charge. Like a generator or
alternator, only use the static charge to create a small charge on
your electrode, that is immersed in your sugar jar, and then attach a
fire hose to that sonavbitch and blow flame for 30 feet.

MORON.

 

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MORON.

Some of this information might be helpful.
http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/electro/electro6.html

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Hey take a bromide pill, you spend too much time here, can't be that
good for the Thompson's blood pressure, or yours.

A car is a dumb bling laden thing, it only works for about 20 weeks,
given a lifespan of about 150Kmile at say 45mph.

Not exactly premium technology is it?

Martin

The donkey thinks that everyone in America drives Jeeps, Hummers and
SUVs. What an ignorant ass. I see one or two jeeps a week, and a
couple Hummers a year. The SUVs I do see are full of kids. What does
the donkey want? Them to use four small cares for one trip? I see more
pickup tucks than SUVs, and most of those are work trucks, along with
full size vans. There are far more tiny IMPORTED cars on our roads.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Eeyore is simply a traditional usenet naysaying Yid, as a spook, mole
or whatever that's working for and/or on behalf of ExxonMobil, or else
working for Hitler's Third Reich.

Eeyore is opposed to everything that's not of his idea, and he really
doesn't have any such ideas because it's not within the authority of
his official job.
- Brad Guth -

While you are just a bottom feeding troll.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

What did s.e.d. do to deserve this pestilence of free-energy wingnuts?

We didn't register, and vote to exterminate them.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

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MORON.

What?
Thats Brown's Gas Texas style. You'll be poppin wheelies in your 18
wheeler if you just put enough charge on those electrodes.

This is what Stan Meyers did.

Now I have shown 20 videos of people making Brown's Gas, and I will
now show you Stan's device, which incidentally before you flame me,
because I know you hate to see so much Brown's Gas produced because it
makes you look stupid, but hear me out, I know you people railroaded
ol Stan and someone poisoned him at the diner, and he was charged with
fraud and the pentagon stole his patents and all the rest, but keep in
mind people have reproduced this, and got the same results.

 

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What?
Thats Brown's Gas Texas style. You'll be poppin wheelies in your 18
wheeler if you just put enough charge on those electrodes.

This is what Stan Meyers did.

Now I have shown 20 videos of people making Brown's Gas, and I will
now show you Stan's device, which incidentally before you flame me,
because I know you hate to see so much Brown's Gas produced because it
makes you look stupid, but hear me out, I know you people railroaded
ol Stan and someone poisoned him at the diner, and he was charged with
fraud and the pentagon stole his patents and all the rest, but keep in
mind people have reproduced this, and got the same results.

Here is another one. Someone else doing it themselves.

And on it goes, and now I will show you what the car manufacturers
want to do to you...
They want to charge you a $100,000 make you fill up hydrogen like
propane, store it in your car at 700 bars of pressure,
and pay your tax at the pumps.

 

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Yet another example of Brown's Gas production or HHO, with a
production rate of 500 ml of gas in 45 seconds with a 6 inch by 6 inch
device.

 

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Here is an interesting one where he applies a bit of Meyers electronic
method of pulsing the charge.
With a small unit, this produces a lot of gas.

 

[Eeyore]

This is what Stan Meyers did.

Now I have shown 20 videos of people making Brown's Gas, and I will
now show you Stan's device, which incidentally before you flame me,
because I know you hate to see so much Brown's Gas produced because it
makes you look stupid, but hear me out, I know you people railroaded
ol Stan and someone poisoned him at the diner, and he was charged with
fraud and the pentagon stole his patents and all the rest, but keep in
mind people have reproduced this, and got the same results.

Bwahahahahahahaa !

Stan Meyer was a convicted fraudster amd still you keep falling for it.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Here is an interesting one where he applies a bit of Meyers electronic
method of pulsing the charge.
With a small unit, this produces a lot of gas.

Where are the numbers ?

You need to make many *litres* of gas a second to fuel an ICE powering a car.

A few fizzy bubbles won't do it.

Graham

 

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Well I don't know if Stan Meyers method is the best approach or not.
Basically all the results are similar.
If it was me, I wouldn't pursue that method because it is
unnecessarily complex.
The small round plates with holes in them seemed to produce as much
gas with that simple configuration.
You know the 2 inch round plates with 1/8 in holes in them and maybe 5
plates stacked together.
That looks like a good starting point to me.

But I can tell you hypothetically how to maximize your gas production.

If you consider the molecule H2O it has of course two Hydrogen atoms
and one Oxygen atom and they are joined by a covalent bond.

And if you imagine what it might look like, you have seen pictures of
a triangle configuration.

Well what is happening is that the oxygen nucleus emits a spherical
wave that crests at the electron shell radius and so do the hydrogen
nuclei, and together inside that triangle, what happens is the two H
atoms are producing waves of two times the H frequency and the O atom
is producing waves at the O frequency and where they combine inside
that triangle they form a low pressure area, and that causes them to
be attracted right there.

So to break that covalent bond you have to deal with the H frequency O
frequency combination, know what it might be at that location and then
change that low pressure area, to a high pressure area and break that
bond.
So ultrasound would do it at the right frequency but you don't want
all sorts of ultrasound pollution in the world either, so you can use
em waves and experiment to find out what frequency will break that
bond.

Now you also have to take into account the inverse square law, and so
at the correct distance from your plate or plates will be the correct
frequency of wave coming off the steel atoms, to interfere with that
covalent bond.
So its not enough to say, well lets try a 1/4 in separation, lets try
1/8 you are dealing with precision amounts for maximum efficiency. So
you should experiment with a sliding distance to test for maximum
production and you should keep in mind the frequency of thos atoms and
maybe try to modulate on a frequency that will break that bond and you
can do that by trial and error to reach maximum efficiency as well.

Then you have the different metal alloys, like is stainless steel the
best to use or is nickel better? These are the things you can look at.

So if you look at the frequency of H times 2, plus the frequency of O,
at room temperature and then use your intuition keeping in mind that
you want to interfere with that frequency.

 

[Eeyore]

Well I don't know if Stan Meyers method is the best approach or not.

Stam Meyer was a crook.

 

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Well I don't know if Stan Meyers method is the best approach or not.
Basically all the results are similar.
If it was me, I wouldn't pursue that method because it is
unnecessarily complex.
The small round plates with holes in them seemed to produce as much
gas with that simple configuration.
You know the 2 inch round plates with 1/8 in holes in them and maybe 5
plates stacked together.
That looks like a good starting point to me.

But I can tell you hypothetically how to maximize your gas production.

If you consider the molecule H2O it has of course two Hydrogen atoms
and one Oxygen atom and they are joined by a covalent bond.

And if you imagine what it might look like, you have seen pictures of
a triangle configuration.

Well what is happening is that the oxygen nucleus emits a spherical
wave that crests at the electron shell radius and so do the hydrogen
nuclei, and together inside that triangle, what happens is the two H
atoms are producing waves of two times the H frequency and the O atom
is producing waves at the O frequency and where they combine inside
that triangle they form a low pressure area, and that causes them to
be attracted right there.

So to break that covalent bond you have to deal with the H frequency O
frequency combination, know what it might be at that location and then
change that low pressure area, to a high pressure area and break that
bond.
So ultrasound would do it at the right frequency but you don't want
all sorts of ultrasound pollution in the world either, so you can use
em waves and experiment to find out what frequency will break that
bond.

Now you also have to take into account the inverse square law, and so
at the correct distance from your plate or plates will be the correct
frequency of wave coming off the steel atoms, to interfere with that
covalent bond.
So its not enough to say, well lets try a 1/4 in separation, lets try
1/8 you are dealing with precision amounts for maximum efficiency. So
you should experiment with a sliding distance to test for maximum
production and you should keep in mind the frequency of thos atoms and
maybe try to modulate on a frequency that will break that bond and you
can do that by trial and error to reach maximum efficiency as well.

Then you have the different metal alloys, like is stainless steel the
best to use or is nickel better? These are the things you can look at.

So if you look at the frequency of H times 2, plus the frequency of O,
at room temperature and then use your intuition keeping in mind that
you want to interfere with that frequency.

Here is something else you can try and that is you know that the
Casimir effect causes a potential between two plates, well that
happens when the atoms in the plates give off waves that interfere
with each other in between them causing a low pressure area which
attracts the plates together.
And that will happen without current going through the plates simply
because the waves given off by the atoms interfere and cancel out.
Now if you take one plate and interfere on the H frequency, and take
the second plate and interfere on the O frequency, you will attract
the H to one plate and the O to the other and that may help to assist
in breaking the bond.
So then what you would want to do to accomplish that is either have
two different alloys, or modulate the frequency differently for each
plate, matching the H frequency with one and the O frequency with the
other.
In this way the waves between the H atoms and the plate will cancel
out leaving a low pressure area which will attract the H and the same
will happen with the O.

 

[Erdemal]

Bwahahahahahahaa !

Stan Meyer was a convicted fraudster amd still you keep falling for it.

Galileo too was convicted ! One more cover up the majors
are responsable for.

Erdy

 

[Eeyore]

Galileo too was convicted !

Not true.

A comparison is absurd anyway. Galileo was fundamentally scientific in his
approach. Meyer had no time for science.

Meyer was a lying fraudster.

Graham

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Here is something else you can try and that is you know that the
Casimir effect causes a potential between two plates, well that
happens when the atoms in the plates give off waves that interfere
with each other in between them causing a low pressure area which
attracts the plates together.
And that will happen without current going through the plates simply
because the waves given off by the atoms interfere and cancel out.
Now if you take one plate and interfere on the H frequency, and take
the second plate and interfere on the O frequency, you will attract
the H to one plate and the O to the other and that may help to assist
in breaking the bond.
So then what you would want to do to accomplish that is either have
two different alloys, or modulate the frequency differently for each
plate, matching the H frequency with one and the O frequency with the
other.
In this way the waves between the H atoms and the plate will cancel
out leaving a low pressure area which will attract the H and the same
will happen with the O.

Any methodology for electrolysis with reasonable efficiency is good
enough when the source of electricity is cheap or free, such as solar,
wind, or water. There are very detailed proposals using hybrid
approaches consisting of electrical, biomass, and chemical processing
achieving efficiencies in the 8-10% range that are more than workable.
The only missing component is commitment, and that is influenced by the
fossil fuels industry and their political lackeys, as per usual.