The Electric Car

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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich said:
Kerosene. And Peroxide. Isn't that what they ran the V-2 on?

That was the V1 I think. Maybe Brad's thinking of running his Hummer off a pulse
jet ?

Graham
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Well I guess you could go for a rotary engine as well. Or anything you
wanted if you design it yourself.
The nice thing is, that the fuel system, is the simplest part. When a
big car company like GM sets out to make a concept car, they spend
millions. With HHO or whatever water system you can invent, it costs
little to make the thing.
So then you just put it in a nice car.

These guys here send a car builder to your house, and help you build a
car, in less than 7 days,http://www.lonestarclassics.com/index.cfm

Here is a concept car, that someone is building from scratch as a
hobby. http://www.baileyspeed.com/ http://www.kitcarsforum.com/b1-concept-kit-project-t8766.0.html

Actually any old existing car will do just fine and dandy with my h2o2/
c12h26 IC engine. I could get a 1956 Buick or even a Ford Edsel up to
100+ empg without hardly trying, and at zero NOx to boot.
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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C12H26 ?

Bwahahahaahahahaahahaa

You mean diesel fuel ?

c12h26 is just your most basic diesel/kerosene formula. Use whatever
fossil heating oil or biofuel that makes you a happy camper, because
the h2o2 will simply get the most thermaldynamic worth out of that
fossil or biofuel, and without introducing zilch worth of NOx.

You certianly don't have to trust me, ask a smart Yid, especially of
those from their Third Reich era.
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Who cares about footprints and foundations? Making the windmill towers
out of skinny carbon-fiber-kevlar composites could reduce their
cross-sectional area by a factor of 10. So what? Is kilowatts per
square foot of tower cross-section some sort of figure of merit?

Nothing fancy, just stick with a good alloy of steel, perhaps with a
wee bit of titanium tossed in for good measure. The actual reinforced
foundation is entirely underground, thus out of sight and out of mind,
whereas just the base diameter of the tower itself is taking away
terrestrial space that can't be otherwise utilized, that is unless you
created the likes of offices or daycare facilities within the tower
itself, in which case the energy density/m2 is greater yet because the
wholesale footprint of what's taken away is even smaller.

I bet China could supply those kinds of 100~125 meter tall towers
(some assembly required) at 10 cents on our badly inflated dollar.
- Brad Guth -
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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Actually any old existing car will do just fine and dandy with my h2o2/
c12h26 IC engine. I could get a 1956 Buick or even a Ford Edsel up to
100+ empg without hardly trying, and at zero NOx to boot.

"Could"? Then why don't you do it?

John
 
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daestrom

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
c12h26 is just your most basic diesel/kerosene formula. Use whatever
fossil heating oil or biofuel that makes you a happy camper, because
the h2o2 will simply get the most thermaldynamic worth out of that
fossil or biofuel, and without introducing zilch worth of NOx.

Why bother with h2o2? Straight O2 would result in even higher temperatures.
Why add another two more water molecules to the reaction and have to heat
them up as well?

Of course, straight O2 is a bit hard to package in a vehicle, so use LOX.
It's about as easy to come by as hi-grade h2o2. I mean, if you're going to
dream, dream big.

daestrom
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
But Brits don't have kids.


But Brits don't work.


But Brits barely have roads.

John


So THAT"S why they put up with Donkeys?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
What exactly is your insurmountable hatred of humanity and total
disdain against or utter disregard of our badly failing environment
all about?


The thing I *hate* the most on this earth is the 'incurably
ignorant'. Its not just that they don't know, but that they don't want
to know.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
Are all the DNAs of the John Larkin's as incest mutated into having
become as snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return?

How many spare/surplus teraWatts of affordably clean and renewable
energy would you like? (obviously more than our pathetic national grid
system can safely manage without melting down)

The likes of Warren Buffett, William Mook and myself will gladly
provide those spare/surplus teraWatts of clean energy. Just inform
our DOE as to how much, where and when, as then we'll take it from
there, and deliver those clean and renewable tersWatts.
- Brad Guth -



Please tell us all, in every excruciating detail just how you manage
to live without any neurons.


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
Brown's Peroxide Gas would make a good enough go-between to otherwise
having my full blown liquid h2o2/c12h26 one-cycle little engine for
those hybrid Hummers.

That's merely half of a two-cycle engine that'll kick serious though
clean hybrid energy butt.
- Brad Guth -


Shut up and build it, or go back to the asylum for the criminally
stupid.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
Is all your syntax always that fractured?


What else do ypu find in 'Fractured Fairytales'?

If you can supply a terawatt of cheap, clean energy you can sell it
for at least 5 cents per kwh. You'll gross 50 million dollars per
hour. So how come you aren't rich yet?


Say Hi to ol' Warren for me, next time you do lunch.


Does Warren talk to waiters?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
Actually any old existing car will do just fine and dandy with my h2o2/
c12h26 IC engine. I could get a 1956 Buick or even a Ford Edsel up to
100+ empg without hardly trying, and at zero NOx to boot.



Lair! You couldn't even afford a classic car, let alone the ability
to break the laws of Physics.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
The likes of Warren Buffett, William Mook and myself will gladly take
care of supplying all the spare/surplus capacity of clean renewable
energy for process of creating such nifty products of stored energy,
as well as for boosting our nations's outdated and badly overloaded
power grid, or on behalf whatever direct local applications you'd see
fit to invest or waste such energy upon, and trust that this too is no
lie, as being currently doable as is.

Of course as of 50+ years ago perhaps not, but we could and should
have been deep into the R&D and consumer applications of accomplishing
all of this as of a couple of decades ago, because it's all old
physics and of the kind of proven science (much of which derived from
smart Yids) that's replicated to death as of before then.
- Brad Guth -


I wonder if Warren Buffett knows that your trying to dirty his name
with your lies? I'll bet that you're the filthy little lying lizard in
his Geico insurance commercials.


If he was interested in the subject his research would be going on
behind closed doors, and buried by severe NDA agreements. Why would he
back an ignorant know nothing like you, who can't keep his mouth shut?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Martin said:
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:26:55 -0700, in sci.electronics.design

That is not the point, work out how much energy it takes to move say 1
ton of metal a 100Km, with all the normal losses, like traffic lights,
and going around bends in the road.

If 20 cars are recharging in say a small city, say 5Km^2, at any one
time, what are the total power requirements, and who has the capacity
to provide that power?

{ fun....
}

The ancient US electrical power distribution system would barf, and
inwardly digest


And the decrepit European system would knock out 27 countries when
the second car was plugged in.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Fred Abse

Jan 1, 1970
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Of course, straight O2 is a bit hard to package in a vehicle, so use LOX.
It's about as easy to come by as hi-grade h2o2. I mean, if you're going
to dream, dream big.

Better still, use supercritical O2. Imagine the scene, driving down the
interstate: "Give the tanks a stir, honey" ;-)
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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8. Petrochemicals are far too valuable as motor vehicle fuels and
chemical feedstocks to waste producing inefficient stuff like
hydrogen.

8a. ...or as other stationary fuels, like heating.
9. Things that work made it to the top of the heap because they work.

10. The engineering mindset is to design new things, but things that
work.

11. H2O2 is nasty, dangerous, expensive, silly stuff.

Next he's going to want to use red-fuming nitric acid. Hey, it
worked, sorta, for rocket fuel too.
 
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