[[email protected]]

Nice. Then you wouldn't mind sharing the information (since, after
all, that is the purpose of a patent). Numbers please!

If i were a hard-ass i'd say why? haha.. What is your need to know?

The most sensitive aspect of IP is the PCT process for international
coverage since the US recognizes IP at the time of creation, and every
other nation on Earth recognizes at the time of patent.

So discussing technical details beyond what is actually issued - can
be a problem with US coverage that you want to take worldwide.

Just a point of order.

One wonders why you could use uspto.gov search engine? If I've
cleverly concealed by identity by this asterly subtrefuge of calling
myself willie mookie, I don't know if I want to give you enough
information to penetrate it! haha.. Great minds that you are. lol.

Here is one published patent - which I've referred to elsewhere as
well

United States Patent 7,081,584
Mook July 25, 2006

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling


Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.



And there is two published applications

United States Patent Application 20060185713
Kind Code A1
Mook; William J. JR. August 24, 2006

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Solar panels with liquid superconcentrators exhibiting wide fields of
view


Abstract
Solar panel system and apparatus wherein the panels are configured
with liquid superconcentrators having outwardly disposed liquid
imaging lenses of wide field of view performing with a sparse array of
discrete multifunction photovoltaic cells which are electrically
interconnected to provide a panel output. The liquid superconsentrator
and associated sparse array of photovoltaic cells are configured in a
row and column matrix and are mounted upon a polymeric back support.


United States Patent Application 20050051205
Kind Code A1
Mook, William H. JR. March 10, 2005

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling


Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.


There is considerably more on the way, and work is also patented, and
in the process of patent, that I've funded from outside vendors that
have resulted in patents and have had licensed to me - this approach
was taken so that the path isn't too easily followed by others, or
thwarted by those whom I have attracted negative attention.

But clearly there is enough out there to show that I'm serious about
this, and that I've built hardware and I'm in the process of putting
together major manufacturing. When we start shipping panels to
Indonesia to create the world's largest solar panel array - covering
360 sq km - from the world's largest panel production plant - making 1
sq km a day - a plant that every week makes more solar panels than
exist in the entire world today - then the US press may break down and
give us thekind of pointers you are looking for. haha..

 

[[email protected]]

Well, it's just fairly seldom that our little electronic circuit
design group is graced by billionaires who will soon be in control of
most of the energy market of the world.

Frankly, circuit design sounds like more fun.

John- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I understand.

But please understand I have a daughter who's mom and whom are Swiss
citizens, and since I'm eligible and there are advantages in it for
me, I'm getting my residency papers and with those will buy a couple
of houses in Geneva and a chalet in the Rhone valley.

One house is for my daughter and her mum, and the other for me, and
the chalet is to create an income neutral situation - the townhouse I
bought for them 4 years ago may be rented as well.

The rent brings in enough every season to cover recurring costs on
all households. Which the accountants like. Meanwhile Swiss real-
estate is very stable - a good inestment - so,its well worth the money
- I'm obviously not carrying any debt.

But I have to sit in Geneva for a certain period of time. So, I'm
spending time with my daughter, and schmoozing the UN folks who issue
carbon credits, cause that's going to be worth something.. when
they're issued. and between that and taking day trips into France
Germany and Italy, and yelling at vendors on the phone - I have some
time to check these usenet postings and make a few comments. I will
be disappearing shortly.

I have a BBJ being outfitted by Pnnafiarina in Italy with a new
interior - an old GE plane that sold recently. With that I will
gather my tech teams and keep in touch and more imprtantly - be
productive in transit. A fractional ownership company is managing
the plane, and leases it out for me when I'm not using it, and I can
use the rest of that network at a discounted price. Since there are
few large long range bizjets flying between Asia and the west, - and
since the Chinese olympics are coming up, I was told I'd actually make
money with the plane in 2008. We'll see. haha.. I'll be leaving for
Sydney in about two weeks.

Then you'll see me disappear.

But I didn't want me personally to become the point of my posts. I was
merely giving you folks the benefit of my thoughts on the subject of
solar energy.

..

 

[BradGuth]

I understand.

But please understand I have a daughter who's mom and whom are Swiss
citizens, and since I'm eligible and there are advantages in it for
me, I'm getting my residency papers and with those will buy a couple
of houses in Geneva and a chalet in the Rhone valley.

One house is for my daughter and her mum, and the other for me, and
the chalet is to create an income neutral situation - the townhouse I
bought for them 4 years ago may be rented as well.

The rent brings in enough every season to cover recurring costs on
all households. Which the accountants like. Meanwhile Swiss real-
estate is very stable - a good inestment - so,its well worth the money
- I'm obviously not carrying any debt.

But I have to sit in Geneva for a certain period of time. So, I'm
spending time with my daughter, and schmoozing the UN folks who issue
carbon credits, cause that's going to be worth something.. when
they're issued. and between that and taking day trips into France
Germany and Italy, and yelling at vendors on the phone - I have some
time to check these usenet postings and make a few comments. I will
be disappearing shortly.

I have a BBJ being outfitted by Pnnafiarina in Italy with a new
interior - an old GE plane that sold recently. With that I will
gather my tech teams and keep in touch and more imprtantly - be
productive in transit. A fractional ownership company is managing
the plane, and leases it out for me when I'm not using it, and I can
use the rest of that network at a discounted price. Since there are
few large long range bizjets flying between Asia and the west, - and
since the Chinese olympics are coming up, I was told I'd actually make
money with the plane in 2008. We'll see. haha.. I'll be leaving for
Sydney in about two weeks.

Then you'll see me disappear.

But I didn't want me personally to become the point of my posts. I was
merely giving you folks the benefit of my thoughts on the subject of
solar energy.

.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Interesting cover thy butt rant, even for the likes of William Mook
that is a born-again serial rusemaster, that's clearly working within
the likes of MI5. There's no better spook or mole than Willie.Moo, is
there.
- Brad Guth -

 

[BradGuth]

If i were a hard-ass i'd say why? haha.. What is your need to know?

The most sensitive aspect of IP is the PCT process for international
coverage since the US recognizes IP at the time of creation, and every
other nation on Earth recognizes at the time of patent.

So discussing technical details beyond what is actually issued - can
be a problem with US coverage that you want to take worldwide.

Just a point of order.

One wonders why you could use uspto.gov search engine? If I've
cleverly concealed by identity by this asterly subtrefuge of calling
myself willie mookie, I don't know if I want to give you enough
information to penetrate it! haha.. Great minds that you are. lol.

Here is one published patent - which I've referred to elsewhere as
well

United States Patent 7,081,584
Mook July 25, 2006

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling

Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.

And there is two published applications

United States Patent Application 20060185713
Kind Code A1
Mook; William J. JR. August 24, 2006

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
Solar panels with liquid superconcentrators exhibiting wide fields of
view

Abstract
Solar panel system and apparatus wherein the panels are configured
with liquid superconcentrators having outwardly disposed liquid
imaging lenses of wide field of view performing with a sparse array of
discrete multifunction photovoltaic cells which are electrically
interconnected to provide a panel output. The liquid superconsentrator
and associated sparse array of photovoltaic cells are configured in a
row and column matrix and are mounted upon a polymeric back support.

United States Patent Application 20050051205
Kind Code A1
Mook, William H. JR. March 10, 2005

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling

Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.

There is considerably more on the way, and work is also patented, and
in the process of patent, that I've funded from outside vendors that
have resulted in patents and have had licensed to me - this approach
was taken so that the path isn't too easily followed by others, or
thwarted by those whom I have attracted negative attention.

But clearly there is enough out there to show that I'm serious about
this, and that I've built hardware and I'm in the process of putting
together major manufacturing. When we start shipping panels to
Indonesia to create the world's largest solar panel array - covering
360 sq km - from the world's largest panel production plant - making 1
sq km a day - a plant that every week makes more solar panels than
exist in the entire world today - then the US press may break down and
give us thekind of pointers you are looking for. haha..- Hide quoted text-

- Show quoted text -

You are sharing too much information. These sevitic rusemasters of
usenet don't like hard facts, much less the truth.

topic: "Brad Guth"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci....205d445?lnk=st&q=guth&rnum=1#ad682c1b7205d445

And the true Willie.Moo is still in hiding and/or being another fence
jumping pretend-Atheist because?

The fact of not one all-knowing wizard within your mostly semantic
anti-think-tank of orchestrated naysayism and denial, isn't giving so
much as one of your good ideas so much as a speck of any honest
respect or much less promotion, as such isn't even a clue as to who is
in charge of your private parts?

How far back should we go in order to find one usenet soul's actions
that's in direct support of anything Willie.Moo/William Mook? Or is
that simply asking too much, as being MI5/NSA/CIA nondisclosure rated?

You do know that these folks here in usenet land are very well
connected to the very top dog, and thus perfectly capable of putting
your research and whatever prototypes on the fast track, or otherwise
directly into the nearest toilet, or don't you even know at least that
much?

And once again, you clearly like all Jews as much as each and every
other faith-based bad guys, as in no matters what crimes against
humanity they've done that's absolutely dastardly and despicable (such
as their USS LIBERTY fiasco among many other crimes) is a perfectly
acceptable Mook standard that's without a speck of remorse on behalf
of any given Yid. Say again that you're not more Zion Jewish than
most.
- Brad Guth -

 

[BradGuth]

If i were a hard-ass i'd say why? haha.. What is your need to know?

The most sensitive aspect of IP is the PCT process for international
coverage since the US recognizes IP at the time of creation, and every
other nation on Earth recognizes at the time of patent.

So discussing technical details beyond what is actually issued - can
be a problem with US coverage that you want to take worldwide.

Just a point of order.

One wonders why you could use uspto.gov search engine? If I've
cleverly concealed by identity by this asterly subtrefuge of calling
myself willie mookie, I don't know if I want to give you enough
information to penetrate it! haha.. Great minds that you are. lol.

Here is one published patent - which I've referred to elsewhere as
well

United States Patent 7,081,584
Mook July 25, 2006

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling

Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.

And there is two published applications

United States Patent Application 20060185713
Kind Code A1
Mook; William J. JR. August 24, 2006

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
Solar panels with liquid superconcentrators exhibiting wide fields of
view

Abstract
Solar panel system and apparatus wherein the panels are configured
with liquid superconcentrators having outwardly disposed liquid
imaging lenses of wide field of view performing with a sparse array of
discrete multifunction photovoltaic cells which are electrically
interconnected to provide a panel output. The liquid superconsentrator
and associated sparse array of photovoltaic cells are configured in a
row and column matrix and are mounted upon a polymeric back support.

United States Patent Application 20050051205
Kind Code A1
Mook, William H. JR. March 10, 2005

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling

Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.

There is considerably more on the way, and work is also patented, and
in the process of patent, that I've funded from outside vendors that
have resulted in patents and have had licensed to me - this approach
was taken so that the path isn't too easily followed by others, or
thwarted by those whom I have attracted negative attention.

But clearly there is enough out there to show that I'm serious about
this, and that I've built hardware and I'm in the process of putting
together major manufacturing. When we start shipping panels to
Indonesia to create the world's largest solar panel array - covering
360 sq km - from the world's largest panel production plant - making 1
sq km a day - a plant that every week makes more solar panels than
exist in the entire world today - then the US press may break down and
give us thekind of pointers you are looking for. haha..- Hide quoted text-

- Show quoted text -

Either I can't type worth a damn this morning or those pesky robo
moderating rusemasters are hard at work, as they are in fact in the
usual ongoing process of terminating my poor old PC, as I manage to
contribute into this GOOGLE/NOVA usenet of their's in spite of their
ongoing gauntlet of spermware/fuckware flak.

I'm afraid that you are sharing too much technical information. These
semantic rusemasters of this anti-think-tank usenet from Yidism hell
on Earth don't like hard facts, much less the truth and only worse yet
if such isn't fully semitic approved. I'm trying to nicely infrom you
that these Yids in charge of usenet and of your private parts are out
to get you nailed to the very next available cross.

topic: "Brad Guth"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci....205d445?lnk=st&q=guth&rnum=1#ad682c1b7205d445

And the true Willie.Moo is still in hiding and/or being another fence
jumping pretend-Atheist because?

The fact of not one all-knowing wizard within your mostly semantic
anti-think-tank of orchestrated naysayism and denial, as such isn't
giving so much as one of your good ideas so much as a speck of any
honest respect or much less promotion, as such isn't even a clue as to
who is in charge of your private parts?

How far back should we go in order to find one usenet soul's actions
that's in direct support of anything Willie.Moo/William Mook? Or is
that simply asking too much, as being MI5/NSA/CIA nondisclosure rated?

You do know that these folks here in usenet land are very well
connected to the very top dog, and thus perfectly capable of putting
your research and whatever prototypes on the fast track, or otherwise
directly into the nearest toilet, or don't you even know at least that
much?

And once again, you are one of those which clearly likes all Jews
(good or bad) as much as each and every other faith-based bad guys, as
in no matters what crimes against humanity they've done that's
absolutely dastardly and despicable (such as their USS LIBERTY fiasco
among many other worse crimes) is a perfectly acceptable Mook standard
that's without a speck of remorse on behalf of any given bad Yid. Say
again that you're not more Zion Jewish than most.
- Brad Guth -

 

[BradGuth]

[email protected] [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:

[email protected] [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:
[email protected] [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:
[email protected] [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:
39:36 -0700, bill wrote:
[about LOX, H2O2, etc.]
...
I don't know if such a thing would really work,
or what its
effects on an engine would be, but its a kinda cool
idea. I might make tinkering with it a winter
project.
You'll never get back the energy it took to liquefy the
O2.
Nothing is going to ignite until it is gas; that's what
the intake and compression strokes are for.
Filling a TDC cylinder with liquid fuel and liquid O2, I
bet they'd ignite real good, if the LOX doesn't freeze the
fuel; you might need a lot of energy to make a spark
through it, however.
Liquids don't ignite.
If you are so very sure about, that i suggest that you try
mixing unsymmetrical di-methyl hydrazine (UDMH) and red
fuming nitric acid
(RFNA) (glacial). Take very serious precautions and read the
relevant MSDS before making the attempt.
Do you understand the difference between combustion and a
chemical reaction?
I thought not.
How about you lookup hypergolic reactions? TWIT! You were
given sufficient to learn better for yourself, but no you just
attack.
Please list any land vehicles whose internal combustion engines
run on hypergolic reactions.
I do not know of any. But there are plenty of space vehicles that
use
this combination, precisely because it is a hypergolic pair. The
one
step upline issue was can liquids burn? These do.

Actually, the issue was liquids burning in an internal combustion
engine.

It does not seem to be stated quite that way. Plus there is always
the compression issue in an IC engine. Gasses compress but liquids
don't.

You really don't get it, do you.
- Brad Guth -

 

[BradGuth]

On Oct 6, 11:34 am, John Larkin

Oh, I did find your patent (looked under the wrong name first try)

http://www.google.com/patents?id=PER6AAAAEBAJ&dq=7081584&num=20

That looks both interesting and challenging. Why burden its chance of
success by betting on hydrogen generation, distribution, and use too?

Why are you folks so deathly afraid of having a commercial cache of
hydrogen made efficiently and affordably, not to mention h2o2?
- Brad Guth -

 

[BradGuth]

Well, you know, it's not that much of a stretch to call a rocket
motor internal combustion - or should that be internal hypergolic? ;-)

Word games are clearly all important in this semitic anti-think-tank
of a usenet from their typical naysay hell on Earth.

If each ICE cycle were given the 1000 bar shot of h2o2 plus given
another injector shot of fossil or biofuel whatever at the top of each
2-cycle piston stroke, as such it is going to work very nicely.

Of course all is easily computer controlled so that there's just the
right amount of each applied at the exact correct timing and duration
of injection into this mostly ceramic component engine, even if it's
limited to the crude 2-cycle piston technology.
- Brad Guth -

 

[BradGuth]

Yes - the Official Term is "Shooting The Breeze." ;-)

But apparently that's not allowed unless you're a born-again Yid.
- Brad Guth -

 

[Fred Abse]

I wonder if there's a measurable difference in solar influx between,
say, Death Valley and the top of Mount Everest?

Last time I was in Death Valley, you couldn't see the mountains on the far
side, 'cos of the smoke. Had come all the way from Ventura County (the
smoke, not me), and just sort of hung there for days.

 

[Fred Abse]

where would the water come from in front of the dam? The water is
flowing downhill in front of the dam, and so you run the turbines
backwards and water flows downhill and a little uphill and then you're
just running turbines backwards to beat the water back.

It's been done for decades, where there's a lake downstream of the dam.

Grand Coulee does it, for a start.

Then there are a couple of schemes I know of in the UK that store
thermally produced energy during demand lows and release it during peak
demand.

 

[Fred Abse]

Rocket engines don't seem to mind.

Have you read Richard Feynman's (MHRIP) additional comments to the
Challenger disaster inquiry report? He wasn't impressed with the service
life of the LOX pumps, amongst other things.

 

[krw]

I hadn't figured you for an astronomer John. That phrase figured
prominently in my introductory astronomy course as an undergrad.

To astronomers, "significant digits" is the term for the number of
digits in the exponent are believable. ;-)

 

[bill]

Neither wind nor solar needs storage to be economically viable. Solar
in particular complements the usual daily load curve, so its energy
can be sold at top-dollar peak pricing.

There are places where 20 or even 25% of the total load is furnished
by essentially unpredictable wind power, and the existing grid (which
used to handle 100% anyhow) adapts.

The hydrogen thing is just a good way to sink a presumably efficient
solar power generation concept.

John

you're talking a kind of apples to grapes comparison. The
"places" you are talking about that are furnished with wind
electricity are small enclaves within much larger energy grids so that
shortfalls and overages can be dispersed to much larger conventional
energy sources. The example I suspect you are thinking of is the
german power grid, made possible by the 80% nuclear power grid in
france and the fact that of the total EU power grid, wind and other
unreliables make up a more typical 2% of the total grid. there are no
examples of total power grids where unreliables make up more than 5%
of the total energy production.
William seems to be making plans for providing an 80-90% total
energy solution using solar, now, honestly, there hasn't been much
done with inverters on the scale he is talking about. at that scale,
a good number of things become a deal more complicated. He is also
correct that if you are simply dumping the energy on the grid, once
you start dumping measurable percentages of total demand on the grid,
you must start honestly accounting for the backup system that the
utilco has to maintain (idled coal plant) which still has to be
there. In addition, it is a fact that electrolyzers frequently exceed
90% efficiency, and the coal liquefaction process is also 90+%
efficient and intensely hydrogen demanding. If it were possible to
drive cars on electric energy at even 50% efficiency, that would be an
absolutely revolutionary advent, even at 10 cents/kwh.
IF he has the goods to produce electricity at .2 cents/kwh, he
has a point that selling directly to the grid is a pretty limited
option. It is still the thing to do *first* because tens of thousands
of megawatts worth can be deployed in that format before the other dis-
economies of scale come into play, however, after that, another plan
needs to be found, the efficiency of which will be lower than that of
the "free" direct connect.

 

[John Larkin]

But apparently that's not allowed unless you're a born-again Yid.
- Brad Guth -

You have a serious inferiority complex. Did some Jewish kid beat you
up or something? Or is it just that you know you're not as smart as
they are?

John

 

[John Larkin]

The fact of not one all-knowing wizard within your mostly semantic
anti-think-tank of orchestrated naysayism and denial, isn't giving so
much as one of your good ideas so much as a speck of any honest
respect or much less promotion, as such isn't even a clue as to who is
in charge of your private parts?

How far back should we go in order to find one usenet soul's actions
that's in direct support of anything Willie.Moo/William Mook? Or is
that simply asking too much, as being MI5/NSA/CIA nondisclosure rated?

He doesn't need our help. He's a billionaire already.

John

 

[John Larkin]

you're talking a kind of apples to grapes comparison. The
"places" you are talking about that are furnished with wind
electricity are small enclaves within much larger energy grids so that
shortfalls and overages can be dispersed to much larger conventional
energy sources. The example I suspect you are thinking of is the
german power grid, made possible by the 80% nuclear power grid in
france and the fact that of the total EU power grid, wind and other
unreliables make up a more typical 2% of the total grid. there are no
examples of total power grids where unreliables make up more than 5%
of the total energy production.
William seems to be making plans for providing an 80-90% total
energy solution using solar, now, honestly, there hasn't been much
done with inverters on the scale he is talking about.

All those gigawatts won't go through one inverter! There's no reason
that existing kilowatt-to-megawatt grid-tie inverters can't be
produced in volume; in fact they'd get cheaper. Hell, houses in my
neighborhood have panels on the roof and inverters for sellback to
PG&E.

The inflated cost of inverters is not an impediment to selling
top-dollar solar peaking power. It's an excuse to pile on the hydrogen
and coal conversion fantasies.

at that scale,
a good number of things become a deal more complicated.

More copies of a system isn't "more complicated."

He is also
correct that if you are simply dumping the energy on the grid, once
you start dumping measurable percentages of total demand on the grid,
you must start honestly accounting for the backup system that the
utilco has to maintain (idled coal plant) which still has to be
there.

They maintain considerable spinning reserve as it is. And the weather
won't change over hundreds of square miles all at once; any changes in
solar-power output would be mostly predictable and certainly gradual,
nothing remotely resembling the trauma of a gigawatt generator or
transmission line tripping offline, which happens routinely now.


John

 

[BradGuth]

Well, if it wasn't so expensive, and resource-hungry, it could
theoretically make for a real simple internal "combustion" engine-
just get some BHP (basic hydrogen peroxide - essentially 100%
H2O2); and instead of a spark plug, a lump of catalyst, like
MnO2; it'd be a two-stroke - at TDC or so, squirt a dollop of
H2O2, it catalyzes into H2O + O2 + heat; driving the power
stroke; then there's an exhaust stroke, which consists of,
Ta-Da! water and oxygen; then you do it again. ;-)

I believe that is correct, and to also remember that we're talking of
a one cycle ICE, so there's only the power stroke to deal with, or the
more limited 2-cycle version of accommodating whatever a piston has to
go through in order to get back into that starting point of each power
stroke.

Perhaps an opposed 2 cylinder of a two-stroke configured little engine
that's given h2o2+c12h26 would easily outperform a four-stroke 6 liter
V8 that's running itself on gasoline, a little O2 and otherwise mostly
N2.

h2o2+fuel can also each be 1000 bar injected for as long as you'd care
to force energy into that power stroke. Too bad that anything of an
ICE rotary or radial power turbine can't possibly work. (just kidding)

BTW, hot air balloons could also become h2o2 powered, as well as given
a touch of whatever fossil fuel for a little added thermal kick.
- Brad Guth -

 

[John Larkin]

On Oct 6, 11:34 am, John Larkin

Why are you folks so deathly afraid of having a commercial cache of
hydrogen made efficiently and affordably, not to mention h2o2?
- Brad Guth -

Nobody is afraid. It would just have to be made to work, economically.
And in the near term, it has to compete with natural gas and coal.

John

 

[BradGuth]

Since we're talking billions and billions of dollars here anyway, how
about using hydro dams for storage of excess energy - just run the
turbines backwards and pump water back into the reservoir! ;-)

That's being done as we speak. We just need more of and lots bigger
and/or higher dams.
- Brad Guth -