want to tinker with my UPS.....

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You really should look into upgrading your solar panels .
(off topic): The next time I go to Canada, I am going to fix their "Canadian Bacon".
Often times you'll find photovoltaic systems employ solar Inverters , pure sign wave & modified sine wave. They turn the direct current (DC) output from your solar panels into alternating current (AC).
Apologies if you are already familiar with both...
well bud, you are welcome to Canada anytime.. however if im not mistaken.. im in the Philippines :/. i hope i mentioned that in my initial post
 

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well bud, you are welcome to Canada anytime.. however if im not mistaken.. im in the Philippines :/. i hope i mentioned that in my initial post
and PS.. im aware (in a simple way)..what an inverter does.. i have 2.. one scary chernobyl looking that states 300 watts and one covered in mandarin and that has 1000 written on it... that one claims to be modified sine wave inverter... both will turn on my tower. however the 24 inch lcd monitor does not power on...using either inverter... im doing my best to be as detailed and as descriptive as possible.. please read everything if you are capable..

as for upgrading my solar panels... i fully intend to keep duct taping (yes im kidding) solar panels to my roof until i produce more power than i am using....each large solar panel claims to be 300 watts and more.. however i estimate that im only getting 50 watts judging by its dimensions..

i have a cheapo clamp meter to measure the flow of watts within a cable.. im just not aware.. HOW to use it.. dont laugh...
 

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Solar panel output characteristics are obtained using the short circuit method.
 

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Solar panel output characteristics are obtained using the short circuit method.
im afraid im unfamiliar with that method.. i do however have this cool looking clamp meter.. to have a visual reading of the watts flowing inside a cable inside the clamp...... i just dunno how to use it.. on youtube it looks so simple...

if im not mistaken.. one or all solar panels spit out roughly 18volts.. watts however is the issue im having.. based on the size of each.. i MIGHT be getting 50 watts per panel...
i have a photo of my panels.. i can post it if i havent already...underneath.. all 3 panels CLAIM to give out 300watts or more...... each...

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went ahead and hooked everything up, however if the ups isnt hooked up to the wall outlet the pc will not turn on... so i think i need to find a wire inside the ups to install a switch into the ups....to not send power to the power bank from 2 sources simoutaneously...

and PS nothing warm except my body temperature, that was nerve wrecking...
 

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after 48 hours of the ups using my power bank.. the power bank measured at 5v.. i removed everything and put everything just as it was...
 

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minor update. apperantly my issue this whole time was the psu in my computer.. it came with a YGT 750watt psu..vut i switched it for an ANTEC... unplugged the ups from the wall.. super glued it to the inverter.. and boom. everything works.. for 3 hours today i was operating my pc monitor and fiber optics modem at zero cost to me.. felt great...
 

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got my 500watt BOSCA dc to ac inverter... pc/moniotor/modem running sans issues for an hour.. however i imagine i have insufficient solar power traveling to my MPPT to keep up with the 200-250 watts that im pulling RN... which is why i placed an order for an additional 300watt solar panel.. although its physical dimensions indicate nothing above 50 watts.. i doubt China is that far ahead of the game :)
this particular inverter has a fan in the rear therefore it isnt hot to the touch..

silly question but.. if most or all inverters have a grounding slot.. where does that go exactly ???there is very little contact between my solar setup... and the ground floor...
 

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im afraid im unfamiliar with that method
A solar cell extracts electrical energy directly from light energy photons, it is a semiconductor. It produces electricity while light strikes on it.
The voltage or potential difference, is established across its terminals & is fixed to 0.5 volts & is nearly
independent to the intensity incident of light.
The current capacity of the cell is nearly proportional to the intensity of incident light as well as the area that is exposed to light .
Each of the cells has one positive terminal & one negative terminal called negative front contact & positive back contact.
Because it is a semiconductor, In the middle of these two contacts is a PN junction.
The rate of current production depends on intensity of light & angle of incident which falls on the cell.
Current production also depends on the surface area of the photovoltaic cell & is expressed as a maximum current density.
Maximum current is also known as the short circuit current density rating .
The ratio of maximum or short circuit current to the exposed surface area of the cell.
Jsc= Isc/ A
Jsc = maximum current density.
Isc = short circuit current.
A = area of the solar cell.
The radiated power of the Earth is approximately 1,000 watts per square meter. if the exposed surface area of the cell is a total radiated power on the cell it will be 1,000 watts.
Reference:
T. K. Kwang, S. Masri, Single Phase Grid Tie Inverter for
Photovoltaic Application, IEEE Conference on Sustainable
Utilization and Development in Engineering and
Technology, Nov 2010

silly question but.. if most or all inverters have a grounding slot.. where does that go exactly ???there is very little contact between my solar setup... and the ground floor...
You're scaring me...
That whole system should be in the shack. That's why we asked for wiring diagram of the individual components of your off grid solar system. There's also an on grid solar system where you're tied in to utility Mains.
You should look at the laws in the Philippines if any there are normally electrical codes the Way equipment is supposed to be hooked up so nobody dies. And you're modified sinewave inverter is going to bite you in the back side. The below two photos which is examples of inverters that are tied in to utility Mains along with and inverter that is off grid connected or tied.

gridtie-solar-wiring_1717345918301.pngsolar-system-diagram-offgrid_1717345744352.png
 

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please forgive the celine dion accent, i cannot help where i am from
You're forgiven.
I Love Celine Dion.,.
Now it's time to shine! Like shine a mirror on those photovoltaics you got. And if there's some way to keep them cool underneath you can squeeze out a little bit more juice out of them... more efficiently.
It looks like I'm famous already or maybe it's infamous, these guys were talking about me on electronics point.
Here is a little snippet of the conversation. :cool:
"I read a report on electronicspoint website of someone spraying water over his panels and gaining 10% by cooling."
 

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I think you might be interested in this
I hope it helps.
thank you, that video is nearly identical to my solar setup.. until he gets to the relay part.. i had a nosebleed and an aneurysm i think

here

https://rumble.com/v50opsl-your-diagram.html
voila, a nicely made video on my solar setup, kindly ignore the remarks about "diagram" that is intended for another thread, i of course welcome your criticism.. and the high pitched sound is actually the inverter fan...
 

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You're forgiven.
I Love Celine Dion.,.
Now it's time to shine! Like shine a mirror on those photovoltaics you got. And if there's some way to keep them cool underneath you can squeeze out a little bit more juice out of them... more efficiently.
It looks like I'm famous already or maybe it's infamous, these guys were talking about me on electronics point.
Here is a little snippet of the conversation. :cool:
"I read a report on electronicspoint website of someone spraying water over his panels and gaining 10% by cooling."
and since you openly admit to loving the Quebec she demon.. i shun you... what next.. Beiber ?????
 

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please forgive the celine dion accent, i cannot help where i am from
You're the one who sounds like her.
I was trying to be nice..
and since you openly admit to loving the Quebec she demon.. i shun you... what next.. Beiber ?????
What's next is to continue to assist you that's what we're here for to help others.
"If we can survive bickering amongst ourselves."
I'm talking about this site not you.
I'm more into Metallica!
 

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You're the one who sounds like her.
I was trying to be nice..

What's next is to continue to assist you that's what we're here for to help others.
"If we can survive bickering amongst ourselves."
I'm talking about this site not you.
I'm more into Metallica!
i could of alo said that i sound like xQC.. the milliionaire on twitch .. but i was trying to give you an example of a common enemy..
metallica good, i prefer ac/dc though.. especially the stout lead vocalist not the new one..
sorry for drifting off topic, Canadians are just that polite.. anything to say abot the video i linked ??
 

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prefer ac/dc though
Anti-Christ Devil Child
Honestly I never saw one of your videos I don't watch videos pulled out the info from the conversation. Sorry buddy but I got it like that! Booyah!
I think you're going to do what you're going to do and you're looking for a cheerleader to root you on. You got here on your own kiddo you're pretty innovative I know money and material is in short supply but you have done well...
Put pen to paper and draw out a diagram what is very important is the length of your conductors the wires you hooked up. Just copy what's already given in the other videos and alter it to fit what you are doing this way we're on the same page. If you do that I will watch your video.
Metallica-Nothing Else Matters 1991
:cool:
If you do that others that are more intelligent than I am will also see it and can provide a more comprehensive explanation to help you. :)
That's coming from my heart.
 
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Anti-Christ Devil Child
Honestly I never saw one of your videos I don't watch videos pulled out the info from the conversation. Sorry buddy but I got it like that! Booyah!
I think you're going to do what you're going to do and you're looking for a cheerleader to root you on. You got here on your own kiddo you're pretty innovative I know money and material is in short supply but you have done well...
Put pen to paper and draw out a diagram what is very important is the length of your conductors the wires you hooked up. Just copy what's already given in the other videos and alter it to fit what you are doing this way we're on the same page. If you do that I will watch your video.
Metallica-Nothing Else Matters 1991
:cool:
If you do that others that are more intelligent than I am will also see it and can provide a more comprehensive explanation to help you. :)
That's coming from my heart.
thank you for the advice, are you trying to lead me to cause my own personal 1917 Halifax explosion ???? i know Qc isnt popular but cmon, same team here... same red jersey on the ice...
i had very basic DC education in secondary (that is high school in Qc).. but my knowledge on solar is minimal at best, i still have manyt questions , for example.. electrons can only go in 1 direction .. either TO a power bank or OUT. so how can i use an inverter on said power bank whilst charging same power bank...id love to dig up Tesla and ask him myself.. or is it Edisson ??? but that might seem rude...
 
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