The Electric Car

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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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"Follow the money." -- Deep Throat

Who is making the most profits off this?

For that quest we'll need full access to reviewing throughout those
offshore banking and tracking those stealth international investments,
just like in them good old days of going after all of that Third Reich
pillaged loot, of which only took a few spendy decades in order to
track down and recover perhaps 10% of it, and sometimes getting rather
testy because some of that loot was being held by other Jews or by
those which damn well knew about other Yids having turned out more
than a few bloody bucks worth of profit at the demise of their own
kind. In other words, over the past 12,500 years and counting, or
perhaps as far back as you'd care to go, what's new about the swarm
like cultism and their nasty mindset to boot, whereas all the really
good Christ like ones are either put on a stick or much like them
Cathars/Kathars exterminated or summarily run out of town.

As MooseFET says; "Also follow the power. Who is gaining power."
Well folks, from what's obvious to see, it sure as hell isn't the
general population of Muslims or even those of their leaders that
don't seem to have terribly long enough to live in order to enjoy
whatever loot they manage to steal from their own kind. My goodness,
arnt these social/political interactive mainstream religions and of
their puppet governments wonderful, as in so warm and fuzzy to
behold. Of course those good faith-based few and far between wouldn't
dare to intervene on behalf of putting any moderation or much less a
stop to such tit-for-tats, as the more of them other guys that fight
with one another means a larger piece of that juicy all-American pie
and/or global domination candy there is for themselves.
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Is it not about time that we saw more hi spec electric cars on our
roads. I saw the Tesla Roadster and it outperforms a Ferarri on
acceleration but what of teh charging time. Can we now re-charge in
say 10 mins? The overnight charge is impractable unless the car is to
be used for short distances from home.


If cruising range is an issue, in that case you'll need one of my zero
NOx Hummers or GM Volt hybrids that are good for 100 empg or 200 empg,
whereas even that spiffy performance Tesla Roadster at 100 empg
shouldn't be all that hard to accept.

Apparently any such resource of h2o2 and aluminum these days is not a
welcome thing in usenet naysay land, even if it's created by a wealth
of surplus energy that's clean and fully renewable doesn't cut it.

If the likes of Warren Buffet, Millie Moo and myself can manage to
crank our a few spare teraWatts of clean energy, some of which going
into making the likes of h2o2 and aluminum, then lo and behold we're
saved from our highly bigoted selves, that is unless you folks have no
honest intentions of ever allowing yourself or others to being saved.
BTW, what would Albert Einstein have done in the very same energy
fiasco situation that we find ourselves stuck with? (perhaps He3
fusion ?)

The zero NOx hybrid Hummer at 100 empg, or the zippy hybrid GM Volt at
200 empg is entirely within technical spec as is. Unfortunately, this
naysay infested Usenet that's sequestered so deeply in their very own
naysay hell on Earth is currently in a no-win situation, whereas the
key to that forbidden city of such a wealth of surplus clean renewable
energy is apparently forever banished, as though somehow representing
the Antichrist. Go figure.

What's so often wrong or at least misunderstood about my deductive
analogy of our utilizing the vast terrestrial abundance of clean
renewable energy for the likes of creating mass quantities of h2o2 and
other energy storage products such a aluminum, is that I actually care
about the future and of our best efforts applied for salvaging our
badly failing environment for the greater good of all life, of which
there can not be such a warm and fuzzy future if it's controlled and/
or moderated by the sorted faith-based past that simply doesn't allow
the truth to exist. Whereas others of this anti-think-tank Usenet of
naysayism from hell are pretty much intent upon their focus as to
deploy as much of their Usenet spermware/fuckware as they can muster,
such as their having recently shut down one of the GOOGLE Usenet "Sort
by reply / Sort by date" features (seems as though rather Einstein or
other Yid like GOOGLE insider, doesn't it, as why otherwise would all
of their topic replies as "Sort by date" fail to function, and it's
clearly of what Yids do best next to their remote PC/MAC terminating
via whatever internet browser back or side doors).

Even if merely 0.1% of Earth's surface were converted into hosting
those environment and people friendly composite wind, solar PV and
stirling towers that'll deliver a continuous 40 kw per tower footprint
square meter, whereas that alone is worth 20,450 teraWatts od squeaky
clean energy, So lo and behold, it doesn't actually take all that
much of any rocket science wizard in order to figure out that the sun
itself as impacting upon our badly polluted surface is the primary
clean force of energy to take advantage of, instead of having to
continually fight over fossil and yellowcake fuel and subsequently
having to deal with all of our secondary soot and toxic issues, as
well as we must keep stepping over all of those dead bodies is what
seems rather unnecessary.

Willie Moo's SBLs are clearly a spendy alternative of obtaining clean
energy, but at least technically doable as is. His terrestrial
alternatives are actually a whole lot more doable, as is.

The total worth of raw solar energy influx potential that's
continually impacting Earth and that of our sooty/polluted atmosphere
is worth 7.2e17 w.h or 720,000 TW.h, and by most any standard it's
rather clean energy, other than populated with loads of nasty UV b/c,
X-rays and even for having a few of its own halo CME gamma rays that
are not exactly human DNA friendly.

Down to Earth energy that doesn't suck or blow; here's my none-
WorldFactBook revised terrestrial energy budget;

64,000 TW / direct global solar photon influx that gets through to the
surface

16,000 TW / currents, winds, tides, rivers and moon (this conservative
amount could just as easily become worth 32,000 TW)

8,000 TW / photosynthesis potential (total PV @12.5% eff, not
including Stirling options, which without much effort could become
worthy of 16,000 TW)

4,000 TW / potential of sustained geothermal energy draw w/o
foreseeable planet harm could easily be pushed to extracting 8,000 TW.

- the all-inclusive human demand that adding AGW insult to injury -

24+ TW / humans + our industry (extracted from fossil, renewable
and nuclear)

100 TW / human+industry 2100AD (extracted from fossil, renewable
and nuclear)

On behalf of off-world resources of clean and renewable energy,
there's a great deal of nearby space-based energy that's clearly in
addition to those Willie Moo SBLs that are solar pumped for all
they're worth:

In addition there's a warm and fuzzy dosage of IR moonshine, as
well as an ongoing force of orbit gravity that's always existing
as our Earth/moon orbital related process, whereas if such a force
were converted into available surface joules of energy, and then
into watt hour energy = 7.2e23 w.h (7.2e11 TW)

If merely 0.0001% of that orbital gravity/tidal energy were getting
converted into those matters of having been contributing into our
atmospheric, surface and of those toasty internal fluids as friction
induced heating = 7,200 TW or roughly speaking 1% of the solar energy
influx.

In other words, if it were not for the energy contributed by our
physically dark and somewhat salty old moon, Earth would become
extensively iced over because, our sun alone is simply not as bright
and toasty enough for sharing sufficient energy all by itself,
especially if mother Earth were any more reflective, as it had to have
been in those multiple ice-age past times that were simply of much
worse off cycles before Earth obtained that moon.

According to others in their planetology field of expertise, Earth is
continually losing roughly 40 TW.h away from our geothermal core, and
otherwise humans have been converting fossil, bio/renewable and
yellowcake derived nuclear energy into contributing roughly 24 TW.h,
that's obviously directly contributing to our AGW before such energy
eventually leaves Earth, for a grand energy exit budget tally of 64
TW.h and growing. Of course along with more atmospheric suspended h2o
and subsequently nighttime cloud coverage is exactly why less of that
energy is leaving Earth.

Life in a sealed biosphere such as Earth, whereas only the bad stuff
remains within our environment for us frail humans and all other more
important life to deal with, whereas the squeaky clean energy that
wouldn't hurt a fly just keeps radiating away. Therefore, we humans
are in fact heating up our surface environment, but having more so
been contributing our energy byproducts of soot along with those pesky
toxic elements of CO2 and NOx like there's no tomorrow. Of what we
badly need is lots more energy that's squeaky clean and the most end-
user efficient usage without the all-inclusive end result that's
currently generating soot plus those invisible but toxic byproducts of
CO2 and NOx, of which this has been doable if extracting the bulk of
that new and improved energy from the sun and our moon, as much as
possible avoiding those various other fossil or biofuel alternatives
that depend upon their having to consume such horrific volumes of our
mostly N2 and sooty water saturated atmosphere.

To argue against this logic is to show your true colors, as for being
in favor of greed, arrogance and insurmountable bigotry that's of more
faith-based ideology than not. Whereas to contribute on behalf of
constructively resolving such issues in the most affordable manner is
being humanly intelligent, along with having good awareness and
remorse for those unfortunate mistakes made in the past, and otherwise
for keeping an honest focus towards taking that new and improved grip
upon the best of our talents and resources as driven in the proper
direction, instead of our being continually faith-based sequestered
back into them dark ages where only the rich get richer and the poor
that can't possibly get any poorer simply get dead (and apparently
especially dead if you're a Muslim sitting on an oily rock).

Excluding all of those extremely interesting but unavoidably spendy
off-world energy alternatives that are never as good for the all-
inclusive bottom line as hyped by their promoters, we have upon or
within Earth more than what's necessary in order to safely manage our
clean energy future well past the 2100AD mark, that is if we can
manage to avoid WWIII, WWIV and WWV in order to end all such silly
wars because we've used up every last drop, m3 and/or tonne of fossil
and yellowcake reserves in the faith-based process of exterminating
one another.

If we are to effectively go off-world for supplementing our future
energy, as such it'll have to be accomplished in a very big way, and
eventually it'll most likely have to include the highly beneficial
aspects of obtaining a little badly needed solar shade and moderating
the gravity tidal energy influx via relocation of our moon's orbit, as
for being sent all the way out to the halo station-keeping realm of
Earth's L1, and that's in addition to whatever nifty Willie Moo GSO
SBLs, as there will also have to be the fully tethered LSE-CM/ISS
along with it's tethered dipole element that'll reach such monster
SBLs if need be to within 2r of Earth, and also offering the one and
only proper access to/from our moon that'll become the only humanly
safe and affordably doable alternative, and that's not even to mention
the absolutely terrific space based CM/ISS habitat of that depot/
gateway potential, that's afforded by having such a nearby worthy do-
everything best via zero gravity outpost, as so affordably and
accessibly at our disposal.

Too bad this sorry and/or pathetic Usenet and most every other
internet forum of physics and science is so badly skewed into the
nearest status quo toilet, of their being in such profound naysayism
denial of their denial, and without so much as a speck of remorse at
that. Apparently it doesn't get any better, no matters what the
physics or best available science has to offer.
- Brad Guth -
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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If cruising range is an issue, in that case you'll need one of my zero
NOx Hummers or GM Volt hybrids that are good for 100 empg or 200 empg,
whereas even that spiffy performance Tesla Roadster at 100 empg
shouldn't be all that hard to accept.

Apparently any such resource of h2o2 and aluminum these days is not a
welcome thing in usenet naysay land, even if it's created by a wealth
of surplus energy that's clean and fully renewable doesn't cut it.

If the likes of Warren Buffet, Millie Moo and myself can manage to
crank our a few spare teraWatts of clean energy, some of which going
into making the likes of h2o2 and aluminum, then lo and behold we're
saved from our highly bigoted selves, that is unless you folks have no
honest intentions of ever allowing yourself or others to being saved.
BTW, what would Albert Einstein have done in the very same energy
fiasco situation that we find ourselves stuck with? (perhaps He3
fusion ?)

The zero NOx hybrid Hummer at 100 empg, or the zippy hybrid GM Volt at
200 empg is entirely within technical spec as is. Unfortunately, this
naysay infested Usenet that's sequestered so deeply in their very own
naysay hell on Earth is currently in a no-win situation, whereas the
key to that forbidden city of such a wealth of surplus clean renewable
energy is apparently forever banished, as though somehow representing
the Antichrist. Go figure.

What's so often wrong or at least misunderstood about my deductive
analogy of our utilizing the vast terrestrial abundance of clean
renewable energy for the likes of creating mass quantities of h2o2 and
other energy storage products such a aluminum, is that I actually care
about the future and of our best efforts applied for salvaging our
badly failing environment for the greater good of all life, of which
there can not be such a warm and fuzzy future if it's controlled and/
or moderated by the sorted faith-based past that simply doesn't allow
the truth to exist. Whereas others of this anti-think-tank Usenet of
naysayism from hell are pretty much intent upon their focus as to
deploy as much of their Usenet spermware/fuckware as they can muster,
such as their having recently shut down one of the GOOGLE Usenet "Sort
by reply / Sort by date" features (seems as though rather Einstein or
other Yid like GOOGLE insider, doesn't it, as why otherwise would all
of their topic replies as "Sort by date" fail to function, and it's
clearly of what Yids do best next to their remote PC/MAC terminating
via whatever internet browser back or side doors).

Even if merely 0.1% of Earth's surface were converted into hosting
those environment and people friendly composite wind, solar PV and
stirling towers that'll deliver a continuous 40 kw per tower footprint
square meter, whereas that alone is worth 20,450 teraWatts od squeaky
clean energy, So lo and behold, it doesn't actually take all that
much of any rocket science wizard in order to figure out that the sun
itself as impacting upon our badly polluted surface is the primary
clean force of energy to take advantage of, instead of having to
continually fight over fossil and yellowcake fuel and subsequently
having to deal with all of our secondary soot and toxic issues, as
well as we must keep stepping over all of those dead bodies is what
seems rather unnecessary.

Willie Moo's SBLs are clearly a spendy alternative of obtaining clean
energy, but at least technically doable as is. His terrestrial
alternatives are actually a whole lot more doable, as is.

The total worth of raw solar energy influx potential that's
continually impacting Earth and that of our sooty/polluted atmosphere
is worth 7.2e17 w.h or 720,000 TW.h, and by most any standard it's
rather clean energy, other than populated with loads of nasty UV b/c,
X-rays and even for having a few of its own halo CME gamma rays that
are not exactly human DNA friendly.

Down to Earth energy that doesn't suck or blow; here's my none-
WorldFactBook revised terrestrial energy budget;

64,000 TW / direct global solar photon influx that gets through to the
surface

16,000 TW / currents, winds, tides, rivers and moon (this conservative
amount could just as easily become worth 32,000 TW)

8,000 TW / photosynthesis potential (total PV @12.5% eff, not
including Stirling options, which without much effort could become
worthy of 16,000 TW)

4,000 TW / potential of sustained geothermal energy draw w/o
foreseeable planet harm could easily be pushed to extracting 8,000 TW.

- the all-inclusive human demand that adding AGW insult to injury -

24+ TW / humans + our industry (extracted from fossil, renewable
and nuclear)

100 TW / human+industry 2100AD (extracted from fossil, renewable
and nuclear)

On behalf of off-world resources of clean and renewable energy,
there's a great deal of nearby space-based energy that's clearly in
addition to those Willie Moo SBLs that are solar pumped for all
they're worth:

In addition there's a warm and fuzzy dosage of IR moonshine, as
well as an ongoing force of orbit gravity that's always existing
as our Earth/moon orbital related process, whereas if such a force
were converted into available surface joules of energy, and then
into watt hour energy = 7.2e23 w.h (7.2e11 TW)

If merely 0.0001% of that orbital gravity/tidal energy were getting
converted into those matters of having been contributing into our
atmospheric, surface and of those toasty internal fluids as friction
induced heating = 7,200 TW or roughly speaking 1% of the solar energy
influx.

In other words, if it were not for the energy contributed by our
physically dark and somewhat salty old moon, Earth would become
extensively iced over because, our sun alone is simply not as bright
and toasty enough for sharing sufficient energy all by itself,
especially if mother Earth were any more reflective, as it had to have
been in those multiple ice-age past times that were simply of much
worse off cycles before Earth obtained that moon.

According to others in their planetology field of expertise, Earth is
continually losing roughly 40 TW.h away from our geothermal core, and
otherwise humans have been converting fossil, bio/renewable and
yellowcake derived nuclear energy into contributing roughly 24 TW.h,
that's obviously directly contributing to our AGW before such energy
eventually leaves Earth, for a grand energy exit budget tally of 64
TW.h and growing. Of course along with more atmospheric suspended h2o
and subsequently nighttime cloud coverage is exactly why less of that
energy is leaving Earth.

Life in a sealed biosphere such as Earth, whereas only the bad stuff
remains within our environment for us frail humans and all other more
important life to deal with, whereas the squeaky clean energy that
wouldn't hurt a fly just keeps radiating away. Therefore, we humans
are in fact heating up our surface environment, but having more so
been contributing our energy byproducts of soot along with those pesky
toxic elements of CO2 and NOx like there's no tomorrow. Of what we
badly need is lots more energy that's squeaky clean and the most end-
user efficient usage without the all-inclusive end result that's
currently generating soot plus those invisible but toxic byproducts of
CO2 and NOx, of which this has been doable if extracting the bulk of
that new and improved energy from the sun and our moon, as much as
possible avoiding those various other fossil or biofuel alternatives
that depend upon their having to consume such horrific volumes of our
mostly N2 and sooty water saturated atmosphere.

To argue against this logic is to show your true colors, as for being
in favor of greed, arrogance and insurmountable bigotry that's of more
faith-based ideology than not. Whereas to contribute on behalf of
constructively resolving such issues in the most affordable manner is
being humanly intelligent, along with having good awareness and
remorse for those unfortunate mistakes made in the past, and otherwise
for keeping an honest focus towards taking that new and improved grip
upon the best of our talents and resources as driven in the proper
direction, instead of our being continually faith-based sequestered
back into them dark ages where only the rich get richer and the poor
that can't possibly get any poorer simply get dead (and apparently
especially dead if you're a Muslim sitting on an oily rock).

Excluding all of those extremely interesting but unavoidably spendy
off-world energy alternatives that are never as good for the all-
inclusive bottom line as hyped by their promoters, we have upon or
within Earth more than what's necessary in order to safely manage our
clean energy future well past the 2100AD mark, that is if we can
manage to avoid WWIII, WWIV and WWV in order to end all such silly
wars because we've used up every last drop, m3 and/or tonne of fossil
and yellowcake reserves in the faith-based process of exterminating
one another.

If we are to effectively go off-world for supplementing our future
energy, as such it'll have to be accomplished in a very big way, and
eventually it'll most likely have to include the highly beneficial
aspects of obtaining a little badly needed solar shade and moderating
the gravity tidal energy influx via relocation of our moon's orbit, as
for being sent all the way out to the halo station-keeping realm of
Earth's L1, and that's in addition to whatever nifty Willie Moo GSO
SBLs, as there will also have to be the fully tethered LSE-CM/ISS
along with it's tethered dipole element that'll reach such monster
SBLs if need be to within 2r of Earth, and also offering the one and
only proper access to/from our moon that'll become the only humanly
safe and affordably doable alternative, and that's not even to mention
the absolutely terrific space based CM/ISS habitat of that depot/
gateway potential, that's afforded by having such a nearby worthy do-
everything best via zero gravity outpost, as so affordably and
accessibly at our disposal.

Too bad this sorry and/or pathetic Usenet and most every other
internet forum of physics and science is so badly skewed into the
nearest status quo toilet, of their being in such profound naysayism
denial of their denial, and without so much as a speck of remorse at
that. Apparently it doesn't get any better, no matters what the
physics or best available science has to offer.
- Brad Guth -


Please forgive us. We are engineers, and we build things that actually
work, and that sometimes gives us an irrational prejudice against
raving lunatics.

John
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Please forgive us. We are engineers, and we build things that actually
work, and that sometimes gives us an irrational prejudice against
raving lunatics.

John

Introduce Guth to Slowman. That'll really be a pair ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
Please forgive us. We are engineers, and we build things that actually
work, and that sometimes gives us an irrational prejudice against
raving lunatics.


Don't forget the drooling idiots! They deserve irrational prejudice
just as much as the raving lunatics.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Please forgive us. We are engineers, and we build things that actually
work, and that sometimes gives us an irrational prejudice against
raving lunatics.

John

And your all-knowing profound naysayism of your applied technology-
fuckology is based upon what sort of conditional laws of physics?

What other if any liquid fueled and assuming atmospheric breathing ICE
is capable of zero NOx and otherwise minimal CO2?

What other method of consuming fossil or whatever biofuel is ever
going to give a fully loaded hybrid Hummer of any atmospheric
consumption that 100 empg, without such having to drag along a multi-
mile extension cord?
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Don't forget the drooling idiots! They deserve irrational prejudice
just as much as the raving lunatics.

And your warm and fuzzy swarm borg like collective fart of such all-
knowing profound naysayism via your anti-think-tank worth of applied
technology-fuckology is based upon what sort of conditional laws of
physics?

What other if any liquid fueled and assuming atmospheric N2 breathing
ICE (excluding your intellectual flatulence powered alternative) is
capable of getting the most empg at zero NOx and otherwise minimal
CO2?

What other method of consuming fossil or whatever biofuel is ever
going to give such a fully loaded hybrid Hummer of any atmospheric
consumption of mostly polluted N2 that kind of 100 empg, without such
spewing NOx, CO2 and/or having to drag along that multi-mile extension
cord?
- Brad Guth -
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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And your all-knowing profound naysayism of your applied technology-
fuckology is based upon what sort of conditional laws of physics?

What other if any liquid fueled and assuming atmospheric breathing ICE
is capable of zero NOx and otherwise minimal CO2?

What other method of consuming fossil or whatever biofuel is ever
going to give a fully loaded hybrid Hummer of any atmospheric
consumption that 100 empg, without such having to drag along a multi-
mile extension cord?

When your 100 MPG hummer is actually in the showrooms, we'll all owe
you a great apology.

Meanwhile, please go away.

John
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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On Sep 19, 2:10 pm, John Larkin

And your all-knowing profound naysayism of your applied technology-
fuckology is based upon what sort of conditional laws of physics?

Well, there's conservation of energy, for one, but I've never heard
that it was conditional. Hmmmmm.....

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
And your warm and fuzzy swarm borg like collective fart of such all-
knowing profound naysayism via your anti-think-tank worth of applied
technology-fuckology is based upon what sort of conditional laws of
physics?

What other if any liquid fueled and assuming atmospheric N2 breathing
ICE (excluding your intellectual flatulence powered alternative) is
capable of getting the most empg at zero NOx and otherwise minimal
CO2?

What other method of consuming fossil or whatever biofuel is ever
going to give such a fully loaded hybrid Hummer of any atmospheric
consumption of mostly polluted N2 that kind of 100 empg, without such
spewing NOx, CO2 and/or having to drag along that multi-mile extension
cord?
- Brad Guth -


Geeze! Stop repeating yourself, before they show up with butterfly
nets and one of those white jackets with the extra long sleeves.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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When your 100 MPG hummer is actually in the showrooms, we'll all owe
you a great apology.

Meanwhile, please go away.

For some pesky odd reason my poor old PC and usenet access is getting
robo/stealth moderated to death, so I'm having to repost the same
message more than once. Sorry about that.

Your "great apology" is accepted, all because the regular laws of
physics and best available science really hasn't changed or improved
all that much over the past several decades, has it.
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Well, there's conservation of energy, for one, but I've never heard
that it was conditional. Hmmmmm.....

Good Luck!
Rich

Luck has little if anything to do with those regular laws of physics,
although the R&D science of getting this 100 empg Hummer or the 200
empg GM Volt into the dumbfounded hands of the typical village idiot
end-user is going to require some degree of luck.
- Brad Guth -
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuth said:
Luck has little if anything to do with those regular laws of physics,
although the R&D science of getting this 100 empg Hummer or the 200
empg GM Volt into the dumbfounded hands of the typical village idiot
end-user is going to require some degree of luck.

The 'regular laws of physics' are going to prevent both of those ever happening.

Graham
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
0
Geeze! Stop repeating yourself, before they show up with butterfly
nets and one of those white jackets with the extra long sleeves.

In other words, you folks actually get the drift of my butterfly net
worthy rant?

And thereby your positive/constructive worth of on-topic contributions
are ?????

A zero NOx and minimal CO2 internal combustion engine is doable as of
more than a decade ago, as well the required resources of obtaining
clean and renewable energy in surplus for the makings of h2o2 and for
otherwise processing whatever coal and/or plants/food into the likes
of spendy biofuels has also been a done deal, except that apparently
it's not being kept nearly spendy enough for those trying every dirty
old trick in their hocus-pocus status quo black book for keeping us
dumbfounded into consuming fossil fuels, plus rather badly burning our
mostly N2 atmosphere in such vast volumes that turns into more of our
soot that's laced with NOx, CO2 and a host of other nastier elements
(including radium and ultimately radon).
- Brad Guth -
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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The 'regular laws of physics' are going to prevent both of those ever happening.

Graham

Arnt you being a silly brown-nosed clown again, and for otherwise
being stuck in that land of naysayism, as representing your one and
only status quo norm.

Some of us are sharing about getting the most clean and best possible
empg per given volume or mass of fossil fuel, such as for using that
fossil fuel along with h2o2 instead of badly burning our polluted
atmosphere that's mostly N2. What the naysay puck on a stick are you
thinking of?
- Brad Guth -
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
0
BradGuth said:
Arnt you being a silly brown-nosed clown again, and for otherwise
being stuck in that land of naysayism, as representing your one and
only status quo norm.

I suggest you find out the frontal area and drag coefficient of a Hummer, plus its
weight and rolling resistance.

If you had the ability to do the required 'sums' I'm sure you'll find that the power
required to propel it under a typical driving regime will never allow '100 mpg' or its
equivalent. Ditto for 200 mpg and the Volt.

Graham
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
0
Arnt you being a silly brown-nosed clown again, and for otherwise
being stuck in that land of naysayism, as representing your one and
only status quo norm.

Some of us are sharing about getting the most clean and best possible
empg per given volume or mass of fossil fuel, such as for using that
fossil fuel along with h2o2 instead of badly burning our polluted
atmosphere that's mostly N2. What the naysay puck on a stick are you
thinking of?
- Brad Guth -

Methinks Brad proves that ignorance IS an excuse.

...Jim Thompson
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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Methinks Brad proves that ignorance IS an excuse.

Methinks you're another brown-noed minion of the Third Reich, or
perhaps of something far worse since you folks continually claim to
know all there is to know, and then some.
- Brad Guth -
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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Methinks you're another brown-noed minion of the Third Reich, or
perhaps of something far worse since you folks continually claim to
know all there is to know, and then some.
- Brad Guth -

It sounds to me that you are making the all-too-common argument "solar
and wind energy are free, so it's OK for us to use them in insanely
inefficient ways."

Carrying energy by means of electrochemical isolation of aluminum is
about as crazy as making hydrogen by electrolysis.

John
 
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BradGuth

Jan 1, 1970
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BradGuthwrote:


I suggest you find out the frontal area and drag coefficient of a Hummer, plus its
weight and rolling resistance.

If you had the ability to do the required 'sums' I'm sure you'll find that the power
required to propel it under a typical driving regime will never allow '100 mpg' or its
equivalent. Ditto for 200 mpg and the Volt.

Double ditto right back at you, as I've been there and done that. Of
course double-duh, as it's hybrid city or local commute empg, and
having replaced our mostly N2 atmosphere with that robust fluid of
h2o2, so that we obtain the most clean energy per gallon of whatever
fossil or biofuel is actually accomplished.

I believe the mass ratio is something like roughly 7:1 up to 7.2:1 for
h2o2/c12h26 (hydrogen peroxide / kerosene or RP-1), a little better on
certain heavier fuel oil and perhaps nearly good enough with plain old
gasoline, though worse off with certain biofuels, though all dual fuel
injected and 100% computer controlled (of course), so that your little
zero NOx engine for that hybrid Hummer or GM Volt can safely mix and
match to almost any combination of fossil and biofuels.
http://www.dunnspace.com/alternate_ssto_propellants.htm

We're also talking about a fairly small radial turbine or some other
rotary engine that's driving a direct coupled high speed alternator.
I suppose you've got those insurmountable problems with that as well.

What's your sorry excuse for being such an all-knowing naysay stick in
the mud?
- Brad Guth -
 
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