Kevin Weddle Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 What is the maximum frequency that is reasonable to work with?Something that can be averaged to a DC level and measured with a meter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 what do you mean by reasonable?Do you mean parts availability? Ease to build a circuit? Component count?Converting an AC signal to a DC signal is as easy as rectifying it and adding a few bypass caps. This is pretty much standard throughout the frequency range.MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Weddle Posted April 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 I am looking for a frequency that is not too high. I think the oscillator circuits get too clumsy at higher frequencies. I know that the transistors exhibit strange properties at higher frequencies, but how high. There is bound to be a graph that shows this. Anything that produces variability makes it harder to get the design right. I would say somewhere in the Khertz is the most reliable. I need the designs to stay simple and predictable. The oscilloscope isn't the only device with which to measure accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ldanielrosa Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 It depends on what you're using it for. If it's for PWM control of a motor, then 1kHz may serve you. It can be divided from most oscillator crystals that are likely to be used with uCs (sorry, lazy- didn't look for the code for 'mu'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Sorry, but without more information about what you're trying to do, we can't really give you a good answer.As for transistors, they will all have a maximum frequency for which they're good. This depends on the model of transistor, and can range from a few kilohertz to a few gigahertz. You'll need to check the transistor's datasheet to find out for sure.Almost any integrated circuit will have some kind of maximum frequency that they will be rated for. Be careful, though, since sometimes this parameter is lumped together with other parameters. For example, op-amps have a parameter called slew rate, which is usually measured in V/uS. This tells you how much change in voltage the op-amp can deal with in a given time frame. What this means is that the greater the voltage swing the op-amp has to deal with, the lower its maximum frequency will be.Another thing you have to worry about at high frequencies is that for simplicity's sake, we usually model the wires connecting the components as perfect conductors. At low frequencies, this is a good approximation, but at high frequencies, if you don't model the capacitances and inductances associated with the conductors, you'll get wildly inaccurate results. Needless to say, this complicates modelling drastically. Read up on transmission line theory for an overview of the issues involved.That said, I have naively (that is, without taking special measures for dealing with high frequencies) built digital logic circuits up into the mid-single-digit megahertz range, without any ill effects. Not so sure about analog circuits, as I've never built anything beyond about 100 KHz. I would assume that high-frequency effects would start being noticeable in analog circuits before they would be in digital circuits, as in the latter, the effects would have to be large enough to start flipping bits before they would become noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Weddle Posted April 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 The high frequency aspects of the inductances and capacitances are something I don't want to deal with. You must also know the characteristic of your measuring device. This will be a bridge or simple circuit. The final measurement device will be a DC meter or AC meter. Can I safely say that 10Ghertz is too high and 1 hertz is too low? Maybe the time difference isn't so great given the relativity of things. You will notice that high frequency networks deal of capacitors and inductors that are of reasonable size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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