New Plug-in Electric Car Company

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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Jan 1, 1970
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Dirk said:
Made by A123, and to be used by the Ford Volt
http://www.physorg.com/news140842252.html
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and similar news
http://www.physorg.com/news140884630.html

"Tesla Motors Inc. will build a 250 million dollar plant in California's
Silicon Valley to produce its new battery-powered sedan, the company
said Wednesday.
Construction of the plant, about 20 minutes from Tesla's headquarters in
San Carlos, California, is set to begin in mid-2009, with the first
sedans expected to be ready in late 2010.
Company leaders expect the initiative to help the company. "The company
has clearly taken production of all-electric vehicles to the next level,
and the Model S assembly plant will dramatically accelerate our growth,"
Tesla chairman Elon Musk said in a statement.
The "Model S" car is a five-passenger sedan run by a lithium-ion battery
pack that is expected to power the car for about 240 miles (385
kilometers) per charge. The car has an estimated price of 60,000 dollars. "

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Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff
 
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Richard The Dreaded Libertarian

Jan 1, 1970
0
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a statement. The "Model S" car is a five-passenger sedan run by a
lithium-ion battery pack that is expected to power the car for about 240
miles (385 kilometers) per charge.
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What's this in miles per dollar? (the batteries have to be charged, and
you have to get the electricity from somewhere!)

Thanks,
Rich
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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LiFeP - 2000+ cycles before capacity falls below 80%
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Assuming those numbers are reasonable (about 4x the usual number for
secondary cells) that's still only three years, two charges a day
(commuting). $10K replacement? No thanks.
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
0
Dirk said:
You only need a couple of sq m for solar thermal, not an entire roof.
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In your flat/apartment surrounded by everyone else's heating, I'm sure that's
true. ;~)

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Dirk said:
Small wheels, vibration.
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Do you know how flat the batteries get at the end of a milk round of barely what 10
km ?

Graham
 
E

Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
0
Dirk said:
No idea, but I can make the prediction that when produced in the same
quantities as IC engines of comparable power electric motors will be
cheaper.
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OK, you can I think get electric and ICE chainsaws. I wonder how they compare for cost and reliability.

Graham
 
E

Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
0
Dirk said:
and similar news
http://www.physorg.com/news140884630.html

"Tesla Motors Inc. will build a 250 million dollar plant in California's
Silicon Valley to produce its new battery-powered sedan, the company
said Wednesday.
Construction of the plant, about 20 minutes from Tesla's headquarters in
San Carlos, California, is set to begin in mid-2009, with the first
sedans expected to be ready in late 2010.
Company leaders expect the initiative to help the company. "The company
has clearly taken production of all-electric vehicles to the next level,
and the Model S assembly plant will dramatically accelerate our growth,"
Tesla chairman Elon Musk said in a statement.
The "Model S" car is a five-passenger sedan run by a lithium-ion battery
pack that is expected to power the car for about 240 miles (385
kilometers) per charge. The car has an estimated price of 60,000 dollars. "
Click to expand...

$60,000 ?

Not exactly a family run-around is it ?

Graham
 
E

Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
0
Richard said:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
...

What's this in miles per dollar? (the batteries have to be charged, and
you have to get the electricity from somewhere!)
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And don't forget to factor in the battery replacement cost every however many
years.

Graham
 
E

Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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krw said:
[email protected] says...
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As I've mentioned before, you don't buy new engines, you buy quality rebuilt ones. It's cheap. I've rebuilt 2 myself.

Assuming those numbers are reasonable (about 4x the usual number for
secondary cells) that's still only three years, two charges a day
(commuting). $10K replacement? No thanks.
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Even with a short commute and 1 recharge a day it would probably make the car unsaleable after the battery life was up. Who's going to buy a 6
y.o. used car with a potential $10,000 bill hanging around their neck ?

PHEVs have it. For now.

Graham
 
D

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Jan 1, 1970
0
Eeyore said:
As I've mentioned before, you don't buy new engines, you buy quality rebuilt ones. It's cheap. I've rebuilt 2 myself.



Even with a short commute and 1 recharge a day it would probably make the car unsaleable after the battery life was up. Who's going to buy a 6
y.o. used car with a potential $10,000 bill hanging around their neck ?

PHEVs have it. For now.
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I tell a lie - make that 7000 cycles
http://www.a123systems.com/#/technology/life/lchart1/

ie using your figures, a 20 year life

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff
 
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