Small outhouse frost free?

[Bughunter]

No toilets so no need )

I think many of us understood your need. Here in the US, an outhouse is
a place where you go to take a shit. (ie a toilet)

We call a bulding in which to grow plants a greenhouse.

That is why there has been all of the discussion about stink and toilet
seats.

 

[Moojundai]

I think many of us understood your need. Here in the US, an outhouse is
a place where you go to take a shit. (ie a toilet)

We call a bulding in which to grow plants a greenhouse.

That is why there has been all of the discussion about stink and toilet
seats.

ROFL!
Well now I understand all the toilettalk and memories D

Okay, here in Denmark It's a bit cold in vinter to use toilets in sheds, so
most of them were removed during the 60'ies and 70'ies
So this outhouse is just that, an outhouse ;o)

It probably did contain a toilet for a century ago, but now it's just an
isolated building, that stands isolated. It containes some plants that have
been kept frost free, by the electrical grid.
My parents love alternative energy, and have had solar panels (for warm
water) in their home for some years. Now they would like to try with wind
power as well, and first step (and as a test before dooing drastic changes
to the house and it's wirering), is their outhouse (not "shithouse" ;o) ).

Making illumination isn't a problem. It actually takes 500 white LED's to
use one amp, but keeping the part with there plants frost free, is what's
bothering me )

It's not a big space, only 4x2 metres, but frostfree it must be kept, and
fire is not an option.

Hope to get some ideas (without heated toilet seats ;o)).

 

[Moojundai]

I think many of us understood your need. Here in the US, an outhouse is
a place where you go to take a shit. We call a place to grow plants a
greenhouse.

That is why there has been all of the discussion about stink and toilet
seats.

So, my comment on heating the seat is not applicable to your problem.

Are you sure?

The autoseat's heating uses all it's power on generating heat, and heat
alone. And it doesn't use as much energy as the blower models made for
defrosting windows.

Yes, I won't be sitting on it, but isn't your suggestion quite usefull as a
heatsource none the less?

 

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It probably did contain a toilet for a century ago, but now it's just an
isolated building, that stands isolated. It containes some plants that have
been kept frost free, by the electrical grid...

It's not a big space, only 4x2 metres, but frostfree it must be kept, and
fire is not an option.

Are the walls insulated? Does it have windows?

Nick

 

[Moojundai]

Yes!

Insulated walls, and double glased windows..

 

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Insulated walls, and double glased windows..

OK. How much insulation, how many m^2 of windows, what's the average
temp in the coldest month, and how many kWh of sun falls on 1 m^2 of
south wall on an average day?

Nick

 

[Moojundai]

OK. How much insulation, how many m^2 of windows, what's the average
temp in the coldest month, and how many kWh of sun falls on 1 m^2 of
south wall on an average day?

I'm afraid that I don't know how much insulation there is, but it's enough
to convert intp living quarters. My guess is that the window is aprox. 6 m2
(double glazing)

The temerature seldolmy goes below 10 degrees of frost, for more than a
month at a time.

The wall faces south

 

[Moojundai]

"Loren Amelang" <[email protected]> skrev i en meddelelse

Many plants can tolerate temperatures slightly below 0 degrees C. My citrus
trees are not permanently damaged until about -2 degrees C. I guess because
their internal fluids are sweet, providing a bit of "anti-freeze".

I'm not sure at the exact limit of survival, and I don't want to find out
;o)
Just trying to make them survive.

If you don't want to spray the plants themselves, how about some large
water reservoirs inside the space. They will keep the temperature at 0
degrees until they are completely frozen solid. If your cold period lasts
long enough to approach their capacity, simply drain some of the very cold
water out and add some warmer water.

Spraying with water creates humidity, but big resevoirs don't (as much).
I've thought of that, combined with a little heat source to heat the water a
bit.

How about a 12 v bulb soldered to the wirering under water?
12v isn't enough to make any short surketing is it?