ksenhuck Posted December 11, 2011 Report Posted December 11, 2011 pleease don't be angry with me, i am new at eletronic's world as you can see, but i would like to ask just one more favor, i tried to put at Proteus, but it doesn't work well, my circuit is ugly, you have the latest's ARES project? i mean, like this way....THANKS A LOT MAN ^^ Quote
audioguru Posted December 11, 2011 Report Posted December 11, 2011 There have been a few pcb designs for the latest circuit. Yours is another one but I am sorry mthat I don't have time to check it. Quote
ksenhuck Posted December 11, 2011 Report Posted December 11, 2011 hehehe i don't want you to check that, that is not my pcb, that's the originals circuit's pcb, i want the diagram,so i can print that and make my board because my diagram is wrong so....please i don't want the .png or .gif, i want the proteus or pcb archive, or the pdf.... please guru,please Quote
benny8902 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 audioguru, I have an other question: does C1 have to be exactly 12000uF? I've found only 10000uF. Do I have to add two more 1000uF in parallel (or one 2200uF [?]) or the circuit will work without problems only with the 10000uF capacitor? Quote
audioguru Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 audioguru, I have an other question: does C1 have to be exactly 12000uF? I've found only 10000uF. Do I have to add two more 1000uF in parallel (or one 2200uF [?]) or the circuit will work without problems only with the 10000uF capacitor?I selected 12000uF because it works best and is a common value. 10000uF will be almost the same.How many uF is in your "10000uf" capacitor when its tolerance is plus or minus 20%? It might be as low as only 8000uF which might cause ripple when the output is 30V at 3A. Quote
benny8902 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 So I should use a 2200uF capacitor in parallel? Would that be ok? Quote
audioguru Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 I don't know why you can't buy 12000uF but since you can only get 10000uf then try one to see if the project needs more uF. Quote
benny8902 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 It's because I already have all the parts, but the capacitor. Also in the country I live 12000uF capacitors are a bit hard to get. I could order one from Farnell, UK, but the delivery would cost me as much as the capacitor and it's not worth it.Thank you for your replies, I will try with the one I can get. I hope it will be ok. Quote
Hero999 Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 Then use 15000uF or 10000uF with 2200uF in parallel. Quote
srecenvid Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 hello. i am new in forum. i checked yesterday almost all 118 pages and i have to admit that you are all amazing. Audioguru you are doing really good job. I already built today 3A version (will upload pictures after testing it). I found also picmaster's Schematic and i am interested to build 5A version also. Can u point me where to find picmaster posts and part list. is there any forum where can i read about 5A project?thanks alot for answers Quote
audioguru Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 I don't know why there are two threads with (almost) the same name.I answered your other post.Please do not post the same questions twice. Quote
vip1002 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Posted December 28, 2011 Hello Gentlemen,good night in the first place!I am writing this post because I'm riding the circuit posted by PicMaster (30V and 5A) and would like to know one thing, it would be possible to change the tle2141 by the TL081, because it is easier to find here in Brazil.I appreciate everyone's attention. Quote
audioguru Posted December 28, 2011 Report Posted December 28, 2011 I am writing this post because I'm riding the circuit posted by PicMaster (30V and 5A) and would like to know one thing, it would be possible to change the tle2141 by the TL081, because it is easier to find here in Brazil.No, because it is completely different.The TLE2141 and MC34071 opamps were selected because:1) Their max allowed supply voltage is 44V and they do not need a negative supply voltage. The TL081 max allowed supply voltage is only 36V and they need a huge negative supply voltage.2) The inputs of a TLE2141 and MC34071 work at 0V when there is no negative supply. The inputs of a TL081 do not work if they are within 3V from the negative supply which is +3V with no negative supply.3) The output of a TL081 has a problem called "Opamp Phase Inversion" where the output suddenly goes high if the input voltage is too close to 0V with no negative supply.4) The TLE2141 and MC34071 are inexpensive and are available anywhere in North America. Quote
srecenvid Posted December 28, 2011 Report Posted December 28, 2011 Hey. i made this scheme in eagle. i dont know if its ok, can someone download and check if everything is fine? its for 5A project.p.s. attachment doesnt work for me :( Quote
audioguru Posted December 28, 2011 Report Posted December 28, 2011 I copied your schematic from PhotoBucket because it is too small here.Even at PhotoBucket it is too small because its parts are spread apart too much.I tried to enlarge it but then it was too blurry.Its very low contrast makes everything look faint. I increased the contrast and it looks much better but it is still too small to read. Quote
srecenvid Posted December 28, 2011 Report Posted December 28, 2011 oh i see... ok there is full quality scheme. sorry one more time http://www.box.com/s/5co1y61jyyke8uc4utczdownload it for full quality and thanks a lot for your help and time. Quote
audioguru Posted December 28, 2011 Report Posted December 28, 2011 You should learn how to post schematics here instead of over there.Your new post is the same with its parts spread out too much so everything is small. When enlarged then it is too blurry. It has no contrast.I can't see ANYTHING on your schematic. Can you see anything? Quote
srecenvid Posted December 29, 2011 Report Posted December 29, 2011 sorry but i CAN NOT attach any image or anything on this forum :( dont know why but i am getting every time when i try error. there is one more link there is 2400dpi picture :( http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18635567/pcb2%20%281%29.png Quote
audioguru Posted December 29, 2011 Report Posted December 29, 2011 sorry but i CAN NOT attach any image or anything on this forumIt is simple to attach a schematic to your post:1) During your reply, click on Additional Options.2) Click on browse and locate the schematic's file on your hard drive.3) Click on the file then click Open and it will be placed in the Attach box.4) Post your reply then your schematic will be attached here.Can't you increase the contrast since now it is pastel and pastel and is hard to see? Can't you place parts closer together on the schematic so that all parts will look bigger?Your new image that was linked looks better but it still lacks contrast.Its parts are still far apart so it is huge which makes the parts too small. When enlarged it bigger as my neighbourhood since the parts are blocks apart.Sorry but I can't spend hours scrolling through your huge schematic.Here is the difference between its original image and the same image with contrast added: Quote
stelsing Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 Hello. I create a power supply by scheme srecenvid. When adjusting the maximum current, in low position RV3 current reaches 10A(minimum), when increased resistance RV3 the current is increased. In what may be the problem? Quote
audioguru Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 I can't read his schematic because it is fuzzy and has no contrast. If he draws the parts closer together then the schematic can have larger parts which will look clearer. Then he should increase the contrast.I guess that RV3 is a variable resistance trimpot in series with the current pot.Maybe you also cannot read his schematic then you have a resistor value wrong.The current sense resistor is 0.47 ohms for the 3A power supply and is 0.27 ohms for the 5A power supply. 3A x 0.47 ohms produces 1.41V and 5A x 0.27 ohms produces 1.35V.Adjust RV3 so that the slider of the current pot is 1.41V at a load of 3A or is 1.35V with a load of 5A. Then any more current will cause opamp U3 to reduce the output voltage which will regulate the current.Maybe your opamps have different part numbers than the two that the revised circuit uses?The negative supply for U3 is only -1.3V. Many opamps will not work with a negative supply that is so low. If you increase the negative supply voltage then opamp U2 will have too much total supply voltage which will cause it to fail. Quote
stelsing Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 This schematic and part list.Schematic i check tomorrow. Quote
audioguru Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 This schematic and part list.Schematic i check tomorrow.It is my parts list and schematic.With a 3A load then U3 should begin to reduce the output voltage and light the LED if the current tries to get higher.I marked up the schematic to show the current regulator at 3A: Quote
benny8902 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 Hello.I built it, it works, but it doesn't work correctly. Input voltage on C1 rises up to 57V!!! And I don't know why. Is it because R1 has 22k instead of 2.2k? The lady from the electronics shop messed up the values.Output voltage varies from 0-30V, though. Should I be worried about the input voltage? Quote
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