M
mikey
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
BWAHAhahahahahahahaha
years, man. let me think
years, man. let me think
Mark Leuck said:
M
mikey
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
I started using 1555s on or about 97. 98.... 7 years, Mark
I'm pretty good with DSC software. Download on the bench and upload to look
things over after each install. I don't use much Ademco panels all that
often so I don't use Compass much but , I must admit, Compass really pisses
me off. Any simple change is a complete fucking download, gimmee a break,
and the CRC packet feedback bullshit while downloading... **** off, just do
it, I'm not watching a suspense thriller for crissakes. Entertaining
software I must admit. Pretty, very pretty.
I'm pretty good with DSC software. Download on the bench and upload to look
things over after each install. I don't use much Ademco panels all that
often so I don't use Compass much but , I must admit, Compass really pisses
me off. Any simple change is a complete fucking download, gimmee a break,
and the CRC packet feedback bullshit while downloading... **** off, just do
it, I'm not watching a suspense thriller for crissakes. Entertaining
software I must admit. Pretty, very pretty.
M
mikey
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
Call ID solves such nonsense as does *69 if you're on the ball and have the
panel programmed to report downloads (or did you miss that in the manual,
Frank?)
panel programmed to report downloads (or did you miss that in the manual,
Frank?)
C
Crash Gordon
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
cost me 9 bucks at Kinkos to have it printed...I was outta toner.
| what fucking manual? where? I would have downloaded that
| nevermind, found it.
| **** you anyways, Frank, you talk too much.
| Thanks, Mark
|
| | > mikey there is this thing called a "manual" that comes in pdf form
| available
| > from the "manufacturer".
| >
| > I have to say this and it may offend many here but it's one thing to use
| > software and another to USE software and it doesn't take much poking
| around
| > to figure out how things work.
| >
| >
| > | > > where do you do that? I thought the software just updated it when you
| > > connected, the plot thickens
| > >
| > > | > > > are you setting the panel's clock?
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > | > > > | Not initially, I just click on the Daily button (forget which
screen
| > > just
| > > > | now) and then go and adjust the time on the schedule.
| > > > |
| > > > | | > > > | > how are you setting the test...with a scheduled event?
| > > > | >
| > > > | >
| > > > | > | > > > | > | Nabob, vista15pcn, don't use a lot of them but last 3 I bought
| > this
| > > > | summer
| > > > | > | do the same thing. I just do the workaround thing but
maddening
| > > > | > nonetheless.
| > > > | > | I can pick a time with DSC and download just that. Compass is
so
| > > > | tedious,
| > > > | > | I'm just not getting the hang of it, I keep forgeting to close
| > > > | > communication
| > > > | > | before trying to exit, I never remember which way to connect
| that
| > > > works
| > > > | > | reliably, things like that, drives me nuts but I like the
panels
| > and
| > > > the
| > > > | > | wireless.
| > > > | > |
| message
| > > > | > | | > > > | > | > old panel?
| > > > | > | >
| > > > | > | >
| > > > | > | > | > > > | > | > | no, it insists on testing 12 hours from the download or
the
| > > keypad
| > > > | > | entry.
| > > > | > | > | When you look at the schedule, it appears that you can
edit
| > the
| > > > time
| > > > | > | > | but it does not stick.
| > > > | > | > |
| > > > | > | > | | > > > | > | > | > No joy as in what? Does it not test when it's supposed
to?
| > > > | > | > | >
| > > > | > | > | > | > > > | > | > | > > ya well, it shows up on the schedules and I can change
| the
| > > > time
| > > > | > | > | > > and dnload (the whole damn thing) but no joy.
| > > > | > | > | > > man, I don't know how you can do that day in, day out.
| > > > | > | > | > > I get 2 hours of it and I'm pulling what's left of my
| hair
| > > > out.
| > > > | > | > | > >
| > > > | > | > | > > | > > > | > | > | > > > Unless it's a 15P you really can't set the test
timer
| > > > exactly
| > > > | > | > although
| > > > | > | > | > > thats
| > > > | > | > | > > > a function of the panel not the downloader
| > > > | > | > | > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > | > > > | > | > | > > > > Yep, my biggest beef too. That and never getting
the
| > > test
| > > > | time
| > > > | > | > right
| > > > | > | > | > no
| > > > | > | > | > > > > matter what I do.
| > > > | > | > | > > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > > "Crash Gordon" <[email protected]>
| wrote
| > > in
| > > > | > | message
| > > > | > | > | > > > > | > > > | > | > | > > > > > And the fact that you cant just change a code
and
| > > > | > upload...you
| > > > | > | > | gotta
| > > > | > | > | > > > send
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > everything.
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > Their use of upload/download is also
| confusing...to
| > me
| > > > you
| > > > | > | > upload
| > > > | > | > | to
| > > > | > | > | > a
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > server, download to my computer,,,,opposite of
| what
| > > they
| > > > | > | > | > have...minor
| > > > | > | > | > > > > issue
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > but I have to think everything if I'm doing it
| right
| > > (or
| > > > | > look
| > > > | > | at
| > > > | > | > | the
| > > > | > | > | > > > > bottom
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > of the screen to confirm).
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
| > > > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > > > | Yeah, and when you get disconnected, loose the
| > whole
| > > > | panel
| > > > | > | and
| > > > | > | > | > have
| > > > | > | > | > > to
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | redownload .. Arghhh. They still can do a
whole
| > lot
| > > > | > better
| > > > | > | on
| > > > | > | > | the
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | design, not to mention the database, seeing
as
| > alot
| > > > of
| > > > | of
| > > > | > | > users
| > > > | > | > | > > will
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | have tons of accounts. Text files can be kind
| of
| > > slow
| > > > | > also
| > > > | > | ..
| > > > | > | > | Id
| > > > | > | > | > > > think
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | MySql or even SQL server can do the job. But
you
| > > need
| > > > a
| > > > | > | decent
| > > > | > | > | PC
| > > > | > | > | > > and
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | rock solid software.
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > |
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | Mark Leuck, thats a great review btw
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > |
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > |
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| > > > |
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| >
| >
|
|
| what fucking manual? where? I would have downloaded that
| nevermind, found it.
| **** you anyways, Frank, you talk too much.
| Thanks, Mark
|
| | > mikey there is this thing called a "manual" that comes in pdf form
| available
| > from the "manufacturer".
| >
| > I have to say this and it may offend many here but it's one thing to use
| > software and another to USE software and it doesn't take much poking
| around
| > to figure out how things work.
| >
| >
| > | > > where do you do that? I thought the software just updated it when you
| > > connected, the plot thickens
| > >
| > > | > > > are you setting the panel's clock?
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > | > > > | Not initially, I just click on the Daily button (forget which
screen
| > > just
| > > > | now) and then go and adjust the time on the schedule.
| > > > |
| > > > | | > > > | > how are you setting the test...with a scheduled event?
| > > > | >
| > > > | >
| > > > | > | > > > | > | Nabob, vista15pcn, don't use a lot of them but last 3 I bought
| > this
| > > > | summer
| > > > | > | do the same thing. I just do the workaround thing but
maddening
| > > > | > nonetheless.
| > > > | > | I can pick a time with DSC and download just that. Compass is
so
| > > > | tedious,
| > > > | > | I'm just not getting the hang of it, I keep forgeting to close
| > > > | > communication
| > > > | > | before trying to exit, I never remember which way to connect
| that
| > > > works
| > > > | > | reliably, things like that, drives me nuts but I like the
panels
| > and
| > > > the
| > > > | > | wireless.
| > > > | > |
| message
| > > > | > | | > > > | > | > old panel?
| > > > | > | >
| > > > | > | >
| > > > | > | > | > > > | > | > | no, it insists on testing 12 hours from the download or
the
| > > keypad
| > > > | > | entry.
| > > > | > | > | When you look at the schedule, it appears that you can
edit
| > the
| > > > time
| > > > | > | > | but it does not stick.
| > > > | > | > |
| > > > | > | > | | > > > | > | > | > No joy as in what? Does it not test when it's supposed
to?
| > > > | > | > | >
| > > > | > | > | > | > > > | > | > | > > ya well, it shows up on the schedules and I can change
| the
| > > > time
| > > > | > | > | > > and dnload (the whole damn thing) but no joy.
| > > > | > | > | > > man, I don't know how you can do that day in, day out.
| > > > | > | > | > > I get 2 hours of it and I'm pulling what's left of my
| hair
| > > > out.
| > > > | > | > | > >
| > > > | > | > | > > | > > > | > | > | > > > Unless it's a 15P you really can't set the test
timer
| > > > exactly
| > > > | > | > although
| > > > | > | > | > > thats
| > > > | > | > | > > > a function of the panel not the downloader
| > > > | > | > | > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > | > > > | > | > | > > > > Yep, my biggest beef too. That and never getting
the
| > > test
| > > > | time
| > > > | > | > right
| > > > | > | > | > no
| > > > | > | > | > > > > matter what I do.
| > > > | > | > | > > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > > "Crash Gordon" <[email protected]>
| wrote
| > > in
| > > > | > | message
| > > > | > | > | > > > > | > > > | > | > | > > > > > And the fact that you cant just change a code
and
| > > > | > upload...you
| > > > | > | > | gotta
| > > > | > | > | > > > send
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > everything.
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > Their use of upload/download is also
| confusing...to
| > me
| > > > you
| > > > | > | > upload
| > > > | > | > | to
| > > > | > | > | > a
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > server, download to my computer,,,,opposite of
| what
| > > they
| > > > | > | > | > have...minor
| > > > | > | > | > > > > issue
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > but I have to think everything if I'm doing it
| right
| > > (or
| > > > | > look
| > > > | > | at
| > > > | > | > | the
| > > > | > | > | > > > > bottom
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > of the screen to confirm).
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
| > > > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > > > | Yeah, and when you get disconnected, loose the
| > whole
| > > > | panel
| > > > | > | and
| > > > | > | > | > have
| > > > | > | > | > > to
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | redownload .. Arghhh. They still can do a
whole
| > lot
| > > > | > better
| > > > | > | on
| > > > | > | > | the
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | design, not to mention the database, seeing
as
| > alot
| > > > of
| > > > | of
| > > > | > | > users
| > > > | > | > | > > will
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | have tons of accounts. Text files can be kind
| of
| > > slow
| > > > | > also
| > > > | > | ..
| > > > | > | > | Id
| > > > | > | > | > > > think
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | MySql or even SQL server can do the job. But
you
| > > need
| > > > a
| > > > | > | decent
| > > > | > | > | PC
| > > > | > | > | > > and
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | rock solid software.
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > |
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > | Mark Leuck, thats a great review btw
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > |
| > > > | > | > | > > > > > |
| > > > | > | > | > > > > >
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|
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Crash Gordon
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
It aint that hard...took me a few minutes to figure it out, then an hour
dicking around with some foreign language (Mark says he was from Tennessee)
Ademco tech just to confirm what I thought I understood...then knocked off
abt 10 panels last night after din din.
| | >
| > | > > D'Oh, I just realized I don't use the CSID either, what the hell is it
| > > anyways?
| > > all I see is a bunch of Fs
| >
| > We all had this fun debate years ago (anyone remember Jake?). In my
| opinion
| > the CSID is far more important on panels such as DSC than it is with
| Ademco
| > since you do have to know the account on Ademco but don't with DSC to
| > connect.
| >
| > I personally don't care for CSID's in fact it ends up being a problem
| later
| > when a dealer sells the accounts, if I find a panel with one set I
always
| > change it to default
| >
| >
|
| Well, far fucking out, the damn manual is 144 pages long too. I ain't
going
| thru all that shit if they have to know the account number. Mark taketh
and
| Mark giveth away, thanks amigo.
|
|
dicking around with some foreign language (Mark says he was from Tennessee)
Ademco tech just to confirm what I thought I understood...then knocked off
abt 10 panels last night after din din.
| | >
| > | > > D'Oh, I just realized I don't use the CSID either, what the hell is it
| > > anyways?
| > > all I see is a bunch of Fs
| >
| > We all had this fun debate years ago (anyone remember Jake?). In my
| opinion
| > the CSID is far more important on panels such as DSC than it is with
| Ademco
| > since you do have to know the account on Ademco but don't with DSC to
| > connect.
| >
| > I personally don't care for CSID's in fact it ends up being a problem
| later
| > when a dealer sells the accounts, if I find a panel with one set I
always
| > change it to default
| >
| >
|
| Well, far fucking out, the damn manual is 144 pages long too. I ain't
going
| thru all that shit if they have to know the account number. Mark taketh
and
| Mark giveth away, thanks amigo.
|
|
M
Mark Leuck
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
mikey said:
The "must do a complete" download may be a function of the panel not the
downloader, DSC obviously allows it but I know several panels that don't
like Ademco, Caddx, AT&T etc, the bios might not permit it
and if you bitch about a whole couple of minutes doing a download then that
isn't a problem with the panel or software if you know what I mean
M
Mark Leuck
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
mikey said:
Lol!
F
Frank Olson
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
mikey said:
Call ID prevents someone from remotely downloading a panel that you forgot
to program the CSID on?? Really?? I seriously doubt the panel's going to
report a "download" to *your* station if the guy with the software's flipped
it to his... Or screwed up the CS number so it can't dial out...
It's Friday. Have a brewskie... sit back... enjoy. The Group's been
downright peaceful since about 2300 hours (PST) on the 4th.
M
Mark Leuck
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
Frank Olson said:
I must have missed something, what happened at that time?
M
mikey
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
10 panel downloads? Do you call the clients before and after or just use *67
and feel momentarily bad when you hear hello? hello?
And then you have to tediously download the whole damn program...
10 times? Really, how long did it take?
and feel momentarily bad when you hear hello? hello?
And then you have to tediously download the whole damn program...
10 times? Really, how long did it take?
M
mikey
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
Mark Leuck said:
Function of the panel, fer sure, otherwise they wouldn't have that big empty
screen with just the one radio button and room for so many more.
What do you mean "if"? ...I'm always grumbling.
Especially when I use DL software, computers too... I just find the more
things change, the more they stay the same. A couple minutes to dnload with
Compass? HA! it takes me a couple of minutes just to connect sometimes. If
you really want to experience frustration, try the Inovonics DOS DL package,
that one is waaaay fun.
Jeeeze, where the hell is Bass anyways? I can't believe he hasn't waded in
on my posts yet... I 'm giving him plenty of fodder.
M
mikey
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
Frank Olson said:
I said solve, not prevent. You're assuming his first DL attempt would be
successful. That just doesn't happen with Compass.
Oh, I didn't intend to stir things up, I like to laugh, even if I'm the butt
of the joke...
the 4th again? que passa?
M
Mark Leuck
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
mikey said:
No if you really want frustration download a Napco panel sometime
M
Mark Leuck
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
mikey said:
*67? What does the RF transmitter low battery report have to do with
downloading
M
mikey
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
Mark Leuck said:
haha, ademco on the brain, I meant I enter *67, in the dialer string.
C
Crash Gordon
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
Depends on who it is. I know all my clients the nervous ones I call first.
Most of them know the procedure because I change codes for them all the
time...blah blah blah.
Yah sometimes I feel a little guilty when I hear the hello? hello? he...
click.
HEY BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FUN DONT WE?
10 took me abt two hours give or take...i wasnt keeping track of time
though.
| 10 panel downloads? Do you call the clients before and after or just use
*67
| and feel momentarily bad when you hear hello? hello?
| And then you have to tediously download the whole damn program...
| 10 times? Really, how long did it take?
|
| | > It aint that hard...took me a few minutes to figure it out, then an hour
| > dicking around with some foreign language (Mark says he was from
| Tennessee)
| > Ademco tech just to confirm what I thought I understood...then knocked
off
| > abt 10 panels last night after din din.
| >
| >
| > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > > D'Oh, I just realized I don't use the CSID either, what the hell
is
| it
| > | > > anyways?
| > | > > all I see is a bunch of Fs
| > | >
| > | > We all had this fun debate years ago (anyone remember Jake?). In my
| > | opinion
| > | > the CSID is far more important on panels such as DSC than it is with
| > | Ademco
| > | > since you do have to know the account on Ademco but don't with DSC
to
| > | > connect.
| > | >
| > | > I personally don't care for CSID's in fact it ends up being a
problem
| > | later
| > | > when a dealer sells the accounts, if I find a panel with one set I
| > always
| > | > change it to default
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > | Well, far fucking out, the damn manual is 144 pages long too. I ain't
| > going
| > | thru all that shit if they have to know the account number. Mark
taketh
| > and
| > | Mark giveth away, thanks amigo.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
Most of them know the procedure because I change codes for them all the
time...blah blah blah.
Yah sometimes I feel a little guilty when I hear the hello? hello? he...
click.
HEY BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FUN DONT WE?
10 took me abt two hours give or take...i wasnt keeping track of time
though.
| 10 panel downloads? Do you call the clients before and after or just use
*67
| and feel momentarily bad when you hear hello? hello?
| And then you have to tediously download the whole damn program...
| 10 times? Really, how long did it take?
|
| | > It aint that hard...took me a few minutes to figure it out, then an hour
| > dicking around with some foreign language (Mark says he was from
| Tennessee)
| > Ademco tech just to confirm what I thought I understood...then knocked
off
| > abt 10 panels last night after din din.
| >
| >
| > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > > D'Oh, I just realized I don't use the CSID either, what the hell
is
| it
| > | > > anyways?
| > | > > all I see is a bunch of Fs
| > | >
| > | > We all had this fun debate years ago (anyone remember Jake?). In my
| > | opinion
| > | > the CSID is far more important on panels such as DSC than it is with
| > | Ademco
| > | > since you do have to know the account on Ademco but don't with DSC
to
| > | > connect.
| > | >
| > | > I personally don't care for CSID's in fact it ends up being a
problem
| > | later
| > | > when a dealer sells the accounts, if I find a panel with one set I
| > always
| > | > change it to default
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > | Well, far fucking out, the damn manual is 144 pages long too. I ain't
| > going
| > | thru all that shit if they have to know the account number. Mark
taketh
| > and
| > | Mark giveth away, thanks amigo.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
C
Crash Gordon
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
that was the day he gave out the ademco web tech un/pw then did not stick
around to answer to that stupidity
| message | >
| > | > > Call ID solves such nonsense as does *69 if you're on the ball and
have
| > > the
| > > panel programmed to report downloads (or did you miss that in the
| manual,
| > > Frank?)
| >
| > Call ID prevents someone from remotely downloading a panel that you
forgot
| > to program the CSID on?? Really?? I seriously doubt the panel's going
to
| > report a "download" to *your* station if the guy with the software's
| flipped
| > it to his... Or screwed up the CS number so it can't dial out...
| >
| > It's Friday. Have a brewskie... sit back... enjoy. The Group's been
| > downright peaceful since about 2300 hours (PST) on the 4th.
| >
| >
|
| I said solve, not prevent. You're assuming his first DL attempt would be
| successful. That just doesn't happen with Compass.
| Oh, I didn't intend to stir things up, I like to laugh, even if I'm the
butt
| of the joke...
|
| the 4th again? que passa?
|
|
|
around to answer to that stupidity
| message | >
| > | > > Call ID solves such nonsense as does *69 if you're on the ball and
have
| > > the
| > > panel programmed to report downloads (or did you miss that in the
| manual,
| > > Frank?)
| >
| > Call ID prevents someone from remotely downloading a panel that you
forgot
| > to program the CSID on?? Really?? I seriously doubt the panel's going
to
| > report a "download" to *your* station if the guy with the software's
| flipped
| > it to his... Or screwed up the CS number so it can't dial out...
| >
| > It's Friday. Have a brewskie... sit back... enjoy. The Group's been
| > downright peaceful since about 2300 hours (PST) on the 4th.
| >
| >
|
| I said solve, not prevent. You're assuming his first DL attempt would be
| successful. That just doesn't happen with Compass.
| Oh, I didn't intend to stir things up, I like to laugh, even if I'm the
butt
| of the joke...
|
| the 4th again? que passa?
|
|
|
J
Jim
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
Crash said:
The way I took it is:
You are one of the few people who don't challange him for his obviously
abhorent conduct here. When YOU asked him why he did that (give out the
PW/CW), in any way that he responded to you, he could not have
justified it with out getting a negative reply from you. You'll notice
that was his last post. He therefore realized that he would have lost
one more person who nomally remains neutral. All he had to do was "drop
out" for a while and it'll blow over with out him ever having a
confrontation with you. See how that works? As long as there is
division here in how to treat him or lack of any objection to his
conduct, he will continue to disrupt this Newsgroup. Ignoring him is
enabling him to continue.
You'll notice the calm and that the discussions taking place now, are
right in line with what you always thought they should be. And why not?
It's always that way with out him.
C
Crash Gordon
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
Yes, I see that.
But, it's also contrary to my nature to attack unless provoked, I also dont
know the entire story with RLB, nor do I really care.
|
| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > that was the day he gave out the ademco web tech un/pw then did not
stick
| > around to answer to that stupidity
| >
|
| The way I took it is:
|
| You are one of the few people who don't challange him for his obviously
| abhorent conduct here. When YOU asked him why he did that (give out the
| PW/CW), in any way that he responded to you, he could not have
| justified it with out getting a negative reply from you. You'll notice
| that was his last post. He therefore realized that he would have lost
| one more person who nomally remains neutral. All he had to do was "drop
| out" for a while and it'll blow over with out him ever having a
| confrontation with you. See how that works? As long as there is
| division here in how to treat him or lack of any objection to his
| conduct, he will continue to disrupt this Newsgroup. Ignoring him is
| enabling him to continue.
|
| You'll notice the calm and that the discussions taking place now, are
| right in line with what you always thought they should be. And why not?
| It's always that way with out him.
|
But, it's also contrary to my nature to attack unless provoked, I also dont
know the entire story with RLB, nor do I really care.
|
| Crash Gordon wrote:
| > that was the day he gave out the ademco web tech un/pw then did not
stick
| > around to answer to that stupidity
| >
|
| The way I took it is:
|
| You are one of the few people who don't challange him for his obviously
| abhorent conduct here. When YOU asked him why he did that (give out the
| PW/CW), in any way that he responded to you, he could not have
| justified it with out getting a negative reply from you. You'll notice
| that was his last post. He therefore realized that he would have lost
| one more person who nomally remains neutral. All he had to do was "drop
| out" for a while and it'll blow over with out him ever having a
| confrontation with you. See how that works? As long as there is
| division here in how to treat him or lack of any objection to his
| conduct, he will continue to disrupt this Newsgroup. Ignoring him is
| enabling him to continue.
|
| You'll notice the calm and that the discussions taking place now, are
| right in line with what you always thought they should be. And why not?
| It's always that way with out him.
|
F
Frank Olson
- Jan 1, 1970
- 0
What's the matter?? Are things around here too "peaceful" for you?? ;-))
